Comment obtenir des permis pour la vague, Arizona – Coyote Buttes North Update (21/06/2021): les choses ont changé. Consultez cette vidéo mise à jour sur les nouvelles modifications du processus de permis: https://youtu.be/fvb3gvrgzb0 mise à jour (18/01/2021): Il y a quelques modifications depuis que j’ai réalisé cette vidéo. 1. La demande de loterie coûte 9 $ pour 3 tentatives / mois. 2. Ils ont augmenté les permis de 20 / jour à 64 / jour. 3. La loterie est maintenant sur Recreation.gov; Il ne montre plus # entrées / jour. Vous avez vu les photos et êtes prêt à planifier un voyage sur la vague en Arizona. Mais une chose vous gêne; le tristement célèbre système de permis. J’y suis allé. J’ai eu des permis difficiles auparavant, mais obtenir des permis de vagues était de loin le plus difficile. Il n’y a pas de formule secrète. Il n’y a aucune garantie. Mais il existe des moyens d’améliorer vos chances. Après avoir eu autant de problèmes moi-même, j’ai pensé que je rassemblerais une vidéo pour essayer de vous transmettre mes leçons apprises. La vague en vaut la peine. Tina et moi sommes d’accord que c’est notre randonnée de jour préférée jusqu’à présent. C’est absolument incroyable. J’espère que cette vidéo vous aidera à obtenir ce tristement célèbre permis et à en faire l’expérience vous-même. Vidéo de notre voyage sur la vague et quels vues il y a à voir: https://youtu.be/tab7j1gz0ni idées pour les randonnées à proximité de Buckskin Gulch https://youtu.be/oz6uladncss wahweap hoodoos (Tours of Sizel) https://youtu.be/mebzku_azzu rock https://youtu.be/0g3x4hvhblk diable’s jardin exceptionnel zone naturelle https://youtu.be/5ptqrqbnays pont arc-en-ciel (par land aka « The Hard Way ». Vous pouvez également prendre un bateau) https://youtu.be/csjq-pwmnhu) https://youtu.be/smtpykahflk trucs aléatoires cool: https://youtu.be/cs4wv_qhhgc
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It would be nice if they had a weighted lottery. I can't believe the permit is $7. But the lottery is $9. Permits are necessary. But, someone is making some serious money from the lottery
Not going. Not interested. They collect fees from you every time you simply apply, and you have better odds of being struck by lightning. They have to collect those fees to pay rangers to pick their noses and chase trespassers. There must be a million other places I can go where the BLM hasn't wrapped it in red tape and ruined it. Wilderness was never supposed to be turned into a government carnival. My environmentalism ends where this circus begins. I don't give a rats ass about "protecting" a cool place I was never allowed to visit to begin with. They could nuke it and I wouldn't notice. I wouldn't be allowed to notice. It's bull shit.
They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum….
Thanks! Great advice.
I used to visit this area every other year and initially thought to visit The Wave. The first time predated the permit system, but I didn't know anything about the area and agreed to skip it at the suggestion of others. Thereafter, there was a reservation and an on-site lottery each morning for right then and there. There was no on-line lottery. The reservation system was always overloaded and exhausted within a few minutes of opening each month. We tried a morning lottery one day; the odds given the number present were minimal. After a few unsuccessful efforts, I concluded that we were loosing a lot of trip time trying to make this one event happen. Since that trip for us involved 1,000 of driving just to reach the area, I stopped trying. I could have haunted the reservation system on the first of each month, but my work schedule was never flexible enough to allow me to luck out on a hike date, then plan a 9 day vacation around that one day. Too bad, but there is so much otherwise to see and do anyway. Now I'm retired and could haunt the place until I got a hike spot, but I no longer have the health to do the hike in and out.
Its best the world forgets the wave existed. Please forget so I have a better shot at a permit
Great Info. So for memorial weekend, go Friday 28th and they draw for 3 days. Then. Not again till Tuesday ? So 28th for best chance ?
One other thing that has changed since February 2021, there are 16 spots for the in-person lottery or 4 groups which ever comes first. So if you get 4 single hikers picked, then there are only 4 people going. Even though it's more people, It can be really difficult to get a permit.
Have you been to White Pocket, Az.? Strange, very strange.
Awesome information, thank you so much . Just entered the lottery and how some day i will get to see the wave . And totally will plan the trip to Kanab to see the other sites you recommend with or without the permit to the wave .
im going to hike to a casino!
Hey Jerry,
You did not include Toad Stools and Cathedral Wash in the suggestion list. Those are amazing too.
Wow we gonna give this a try thanks
I always wanted to visit the Wave but it seemed impossible to win the tickets, so pretty much gave up.
Yet I found other places from your videos, e.g, White Pocket, slot canyon in Utah where I don’t need permit, so we’ll try visiting these places.
Whether or not I try getting the Wave’s permit in the future, thank you so much for your informations and videos! Your works are greatly appreciated.
@Jerry Arizona – 2 questions: Every time you enter the online lottery it's another $9 fee? That adds up! Is there any way around that, other than going in person? Also, I am looking right now on the permit page and don't see at all where it says how many are already applying for a certain date. That would REALLY come in handy.
Thanks for all the info!
I went to what I later learned was the Wave in about 1995 with some geology grad students on a field trip. There were no permits required, and finding required following topo maps, which was funny because at one point the whole group got off course. Geology students! Lol. Anyway, the wave was cool, no doubt, but in all honesty, it's not as cool (interesting) as a lot of ofther places right in the same area. I thought the route into the wave, with all the cannonball looking rocks which eroded and then left bubbles in the rock to be filled in with minerals. Nearly perfectly rounded and hollow. We even broke few open to see what was inside, though I don't recommend anyone does that. At the time, it was just another reference point on a topo map, just another cool pile of rocks nobody would ever see, but in fact it's the best part of the hike was those cannonballs. If I go back, I'll go between Christmas and New Years, but more likely I'll do what I would also recommend others do and simpy find a new cool spot that nobody else cares about. There are about 1 gazillion and three as of my current counting.
So dope she recorded it and btw she’s the best
Excellent advice.
So what your saying I have to live in the f#cking state
Looks like much has changed with the permits. But, LOL. Loved the outtakes at the end.
Wow, 10 people each day is really restrictive. Why do they do that? I understand that it wouldn't be great for the trail if 2000 people went each day. But 10? Why? Also, it seems pretty shady to have the lottery cost money for each entry. This is national land (meaning it belongs to the people), they shouldn't behave like a greedy for-profit corporation.
I applied once and got a permit so I feel super lucky.
It's too bad they changed to the new website and also increased the number of permits per day. There was a 'trick' with the old site that I used successfully to get a number of permits. You just had to read the rules and understand what they did when permits went unused.
Funny enough, I actually am watching this from New Hampshire 😅 I have my first entries in this month. Hoping for good luck
How safe is the parking at the trailhead?
This is so Weird needing a PErmit for walking on the earth … very strange
Thank you for details