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They are NOT leaving Dallas. Plano is in the northeast end of the greater Dallas metro complex. It is a far better option for the fan base, locates them much closer to Frisco where they have training facilities. And finally, leaves a ton of street crime behind in the downtown area. But make no mistake, this is still Dallas.
Downtown Dallas is much harder to get to for Dallas Fort Worth folks. The roadways are a big circle with a cross that runs down the middle. The traffic is insane. They don't have the infrastructure you would think for a major city. They already have a team in Allen which is pretty close to Plano. Also Plano is way nicer and safer for fans with much more to do. This is not as cut and dry as you would think. Furthermore where the players live is probably in Frisco which is closer to Plano as well.
If logistically possible, it makes so much sense financially to turn every arena 🏟 into a block party. Ala Wrigley Field. The Blackhawks are doing the same thing on the west side of Chicago next to the United Center.
Think of it being somewhat comparable to the Panthers being in Sunrise or the Detroit Pistons formerly being in Allen Park. Plano is extremely lucrative, tons of companies based there, growing population, that’s the place to be in the Dallas Metro area from what I understand.
These things, when done well, can work. The Braves thing has worked: attendance has been good, the strategy there with shops and stuff has been successful. That’s what teams are trying to emulate; getting the money outside the park too. Things you just can’t often get in an already developed city center. I agree that teams should be more in central locations though, does no good for a lot of people when you’re in a pretty distant suburb.
As for the train comments, I don’t really know what the confusion is. It’s mostly about funding more than anything, there’s not a ton of aversion to the idea of it here, but rather people don’t like the process and the upfront costs. It takes 20 years to get anything done it feels like.
Back to the stadiums. Especially now, I think most stadiums have been trying to trend away from that “massive parking lot” thing you guys said we have, if they haven’t already.
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This is absurd!
How don't you understand the backlash against trains? You know that's where the druggie zombies live right?
That title, while not factually untrue, is some serious cliiiiiiiick baaaaaaaaaiit.
It’s about revenue and the revenue ownership gets to keep. I’m sure the suburbs have a much lower tax rate. Then the parking lots are good mines for ownership. At $50-$100 per car they are basically doubling the ticket price. With virtually no upkeep and minimum staff to just collect the money. And that extra revenue is for every event not just hockey games. Most likely adds 20%-30% to their revenue. So doing 100’s of millions of dollars a year an extra 30% is a lot!!! And if they can get a better tax rate on top of that! I’d move out of the city too!
And moving to the suburbia of Dallas called Plano. Which isn’t too far from Dallas. They’re just leaving the Dallas downtown. Staying in the Dallas metro area.
Miles would be the proper way to describe it to normal people. Ya Canuck
6:16 yeah because every time there's a rail system, the unhomed rob everyone on them
27km???? Really? That’s the argument? You have zero concept of how big the Dallas/Ft.Worth area is 😂 . The metroplex covers more than 24,000 square Km’s……….27km’s 😂😂😂😂😂
Its same in calgary new arena is just behind the saddledome has train access.
27 km? It's 20 mins away.
Plano is still Dallas btw
Posted on the main pod as well, but I live close to the old Braves stadium in Atlanta (Grant Park) and miss them there very much and prefer downtown stadiums in general, but the Braves by no means have lost money moving northwest of the city to the Battery. They have made a ton of money on the entertainment district (that profit is not subject to league revenue sharing and comes in even out of baseball season) and have not seen a significant drop in ticket sales outside of covid, and have been able to raise ticket prices now that they are closer to more wealthy costumers/season ticket holders. I hate it and I hate that if we get an NHL team it will also be in the suburbs and not grow the game beyond the wealthy people who live north of the city, but it is very financially viable for the billionaires
Dallas is a rundown disgusting metro area. Super spread out and all of it crappy
PLAY-no. (I'm not the first one to comment on this, but here to get the word out)
really sad because AA is a great arena in such a perfect spot, right next to the DART (metro)
Saying "downtown dallas" is kinda an oxymoron. One of the most sprawled cities on the continent
Lmao I just got to the part where Jesse is talking about getting somewhere by transit. Guys you don't understand how Texas operates it's all 6 lane roads and pickup trucks
Oh FFS
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Dallas resident here. Part of the backlash is actually because it was so easy to get to the stars arena from the metroplex via train
Texas legends Plano Stars
If Dundon gets his way and it look$ very likely he will, most of the car parks round Lenovo and possibly Carter-Finley will be converted to an entertainment district and parking decks.
Getting out of the lots is nightmarish at best now and replacing them with decks kills the tailgating vibe Carolina is rightly famous for and access to and from the arena is much harder. People are bitching now about the astronomical price of parking (I miss the $10 parking days!) but it’ll be far worse with decks Dundon will want to recoup the building expenses.
Add to it zero mass transit and park-and-ride opportunities which is the norm in most of the south of this country. Even when there is mass transit with light rail, outside of MARTA in Atlanta, they’re mostly useless and don’t go anywhere you need to. I’d love to take in the occasional football (soccer) fixture in Charlotte. I can take a NC train from Raleigh to downtown Charlotte but the light rail doesn’t get me to the stadium and the bus isn’t timely or reliable. But even solving that problem, the timing of the trains back to Raleigh which stop in the evening pretty much guarantees an overnight stay in expensive Uptown unless I leave the event early which for a night game is impossible.
Dundon certainly will fight any attempt at mass transit to compete with his parking cash cow even though he’s guaranteed to fill many fewer spaces and park-and-ride schemes would not only allow more fans in but it’d help alleviate soul-crushing traffic jams.
And Lenovo is pretty easy to access with nearby motorways.
If he ever tried to move them to downtown Raleigh where there is no light rail and bus service is a joke, it’d be an epic disaster.
They’re already trying to wedge in a 20K seat outdoor stadium for NCFC between south of downtown and I-40 and if it happens, it will be a mess. Stuffing something the size of Lenovo there is even more absurd.
While I understand what the Dallas Stars are doing here, they’re setting themselves up to be like the Ottawa Senators where their arena is so far from the main city that people won’t go. It sounds like it might be even farther than Ottawa to Kanata.
How about Mitch Marner?
A clickbait headline so bad I hope it adds 50 years to the leafs curse, Dangle.