#hockey #nhl #pittsburghpenguins #carolinahurricanes Le joueur le plus parlé des échéances commerciales de 2024, Jake Guentzel, passera des Penguins de Pittsburgh aux Hurricanes de la Caroline.
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Pono is a great prospect he played really well in the 2 games he played for us this season. He's the only one I'm a little upset to lose but it's worth it for Guentzel.
To not get a guaranteed first-rounder for a nearly PPG centerman in his prime is NO DOUBT getting FLEECED!!!!
Dubas is not a good GM, he proved that in Toronto. And don't anyone try to act like the current Leafs players have anything to do with Dubas. Anyone would have picked those players in that positions. He did nothing but surround them with soft small players.
The only argument I feel like I can say is we drafted him at 3rd round, like 4 second picks (Including the prospects, one or two could be third I havent done full research on the players, two look good (fingers crossed) and 2nd maybe 1st and whatever the other pick is lol, but definetly a hurt to the locker room, wish it was the other 5 mill players we couldve got ridden and got younger that way, but Idk how to feel kinda in the middle like yeah it has to happened at this point, but top 2 player ouch
You're selling Michael Bunting short. Played as the corner digger-shit disturber-human goalie shield and greasy goal-garbage picker upper on the Leafs for 2 seasons after they stole him from the 'yotes. Tons of energy and grit. 63 and 49 points in his two years. with the Buds. He's no 3rd or 4th line depth forward throw in.
hey eck could you make a vid explaining all this trading jargon? half the time i have no idea what it means
Dubas will certainly screw this up.
Ask Toronto fans.
Dubas is not a good deal maker! trading away young talent is stupid! 😊
Kyle dubas is a joke. Guy ruined toronto, now he will ruin the pens !
We didn't leave after 2 rounds last year 😅
The hype for moving Guentz was absurd, so there was no way Dubas would ever meet those expectations. I don't love the return, but it's something. I would have personally gone more for quality over quantity, even if that mean sweetening the pot to get a blue chip prospect and a guaranteed first- maybe by adding Pettersson in a 3 team trade.
He's a rental! No, they never got fleeced.
why do people think Dubas is a good GM? he should have been run out of Toronto years ago.
Dubas LLOOOVES his guys 😂
I know you make alot of content but you still gotta edit your work bro lol
It’s not terrible considering the whole league knew he was not staying in Pittsburgh that koivunen kid is having a fantastic year in the Finnish elite league
Sid is outta there!!
Wouldn't be the first time
Considering Guentzel is just coming off of injury and is a rental with zero term on his contract left, his value wasn't as big as it could have been.
As a pens fans this makes me cry
If it's 3rd round of the playoffs only, that means the pick is either 29-32 or 49-60 (assuming they are a lock for the playoffs but let's assume they're a lock) which sounds way different from "first round dropping to second round"
I feel bad for Guentzal. He got taken away from playing with one of the greatest players of our generation to get put in Carolina. Oof!
The focus was certainly more about NHL ready prospects than the picks. I don't know much about Carolina's prospect pool but we likely went for "lower ranked" prospects because they are currently performing in pro leagues or college and are more NHL ready than others
Dubas has been an unmitigated disaster. Every move he has made from the guys he has resigned, to the free agent signings, to the trades, has absolutely blown up in his face. It's almost as if he is singlehandedly trying to ruin the Pittsburgh Penguins or at least set them back to flounder for about the next decade or so. Sad as a Pens fan to see this old dumpster fire of a team get skated off the ice every night.
Dubas LOOOOOOOVES his guys!
Finally. Something for Leaf fans to be happy about!
It wasn't a fleece. They took the best offer that was on the table. Jake is a rental that they weren't going to be able to re-sign in the off season. They got some decent players in return, that's all Pens fans can ask for at this point. This is a sign, the rebuild is starting. The core 3 of Crosby, Malkin, and Letang will stay with the team until retirement. Everyone else is subject to movement.
No.
Kyle Stoogeous!!!
vasilli ponomarev is nothing to sneeze at really i feel its been glossed over too much
why did this guy repeat the trade like 3 times? never watching another vid again this dude a moron
Considering that everyone knew Jake wouldn't resign in Pittsburgh, because his team wanted $2M more than the Pens were able to offer, this was a pretty solid return. The prospects are 18, 19, and 21…all about point per game players, where they are currently playing…college hockey, Swedish Liiga, and AHL. They're expecting that we'll see Ponomarev playing in the 'burgh before the end of the season.
On another note, after today's game, the Pens have the 8th worst record, in the league and , in their remaining 20 games, play 16 against teams above them in the standings…the Pens could have a top four draft lottery pick, and, with a little luck, a shot at Celebrini, or another franchise player…while Crosby's still playing really well.
Pens fan here. I think draft picks are relatively worthless outside maybe the top 3 in most cases, so I'm glad we didn't go all ga-ga for some playoff team's late first rounder. I'm actually happy we got a bona fide NHLer, 3 decent prospects, and a couple of lottery tickets for a guy who we could've potentially lost for nothing anyway. AND, though I don't have optimism about it or anything, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility that we could go and make an offer to Jake in the offseason and re-sign him. If that were to happen, then I'd say we come out WAY on top on that deal.
This is a business, and we can't keep everyone. I'm genuinely shocked the Pens didn't move more people. I thought for sure there would be teams wanting a few of our other guys. Especially Eller, who has been rock solid all season and is playing his best offensive hockey the last few weeks. He's a proven playoff competitor and a solid depth piece. You're telling me every single playoff team looked at Eller and said "Nah, center depth isn't that important"? Also surprised someone didn't make a run for either Rakell or Smith. Both have had down years, but Rakell is playing way better lately, and Smith has Cup experience. Also a little surprised we didn't have takers for Acciari (cheap depth C with some grit should make any playoff team better) or Ned (this year his play has been at a level that would slot him in as a 1B goalie on most teams… goalie depth has proven vital in cup runs for the last decade or more, and I'd probably say Ned is at least as good if not better than a couple starters heading to the playoffs this year).
Alas, it is what it is. We're probably entering some dark days in Pittsburgh unless miracles start falling out of trees.
Yes, yes he did.
How’s the IN DUBAS WE TUST phrase working out for ya shitsburgh
Too soon to call it a fleecing with prospects and picks involved – it'll take 5 years to see what they turn into.
Pens got Royally fked by Carolina! Getting Dumbas as a GM was an awful move
bunting is awful lmao who would trade for him
I dont mind the trade to be fair, kyle used to draft and sign plenty of players that he could grow the value of. Honestly he remind me of a stock trader. Always trying for the galaxy brain move, which he pulled some good "under the radar" signings and draft picks with his tenure. Idk time will tell on this one.
I don’t understand why leafs fans think dubas is a great GM
He built a failure in Toronto (1 playoff round win?!) and is doing the same in Pittsburgh
Ponomarev is a really solid prospect, he'll be a steady middle 6 center in a few years. As a Canes fan, while I think the trade was solid for us, I was sad to lose him.
It’s kinda funny looking at the parallels between the Red Sox and Penguins. Getting rid of talent, getting bad returns etc.
Same owner go figure.
Sorry Pens fans. Dubas is going to set the Penquins back at least 5 years. You know any ‘next Crosby’ 12 year olds to save the franchise once they hit rock bottom?
Bro I think that you’ve literally became The Ray William Johnson of hockey 😊
This season turned into a shitshow real quick
Can you review the sabres oilers game? Sabres had to win twice. Overtime goal gets called back after everyone has gone to the dressing rooms
This was a huge mistake. Dubas is a dumbass.
Enjoy Dubas guys, greetings from Toronto whose team has been NHL laughing matter for decades.
I only cheer for whoever plays better, except I can't cheer for the bad bears, can't stand them being consistently good for over a decade now, might just be jealous though…