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Does Marner win a cup before Toronto?
My guess is his attitude will change in Vegas. Different players, management, media, environment. I don't know how Vegas keeps adding salary like this, but I'd say it's a fair gamble.
Like they say! You never miss something until it’s gone! Same shitte happened when they traded away Errol Thompson! Remember that?
Plenty of blame to go around as to why Leafs have not won a Cup since '67. Hockey is a team sport and a lot of core pieces did not play as well in the playoffs.
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The truth is that Marner was the best player on the Leafs. He was just a soft player on a team full of soft players.
What about Matthews? He literally do NOTHING in playoffs
Let's see how Auston does without Mariner feeding him 😂
How does one guy get all the blame for a teams failures? It's no wonder Marner wanted to skip town.
Bye Mitch, ya got no balls.
Leaf fans are the worst
Tough to replace Marners regular season production, but come playoff time, he’s invisible anyway. The core players of the leafs have all been bad in the playoffs, but marner is the only one who wanted out and it was evident the last couple of years.
Leaf tears taste amazing. Now why'd you dummies pay Tavares a ton 7 years ago when you needed defensemen and a goalie? Blame Dubas and Shanahan for this mess. Not Marner. Have fun finishing 5th in the division next year.
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Might work out for Marner….he won't have to dig in the corners, check anybody, he could play like Gretzky use to, waiting at the blue line for a pass….
Vegas always cashing in on golden players 😂. Let’s go VGK
It disgusts me the way fans scapegoat single players like this. Do you not think they want to win as badly as you want them to win? Like they spent 20+ years constantly practicing, skipping out on a lot of the fun parts of life and being berated by fans and the paper just to say "Game 7? I'ma take it easy tonight."
No, they want to win. They want fans to stop harassing them. They want to be able to go out and eat with their family without someone yelling at them about being a choker.
So what if they're paid a certain amount. They dont control the salary cap, that's the way it's supposed to work. Every year a small amount of top talent resets the new high. Marvin Miller designed it that way with baseball's free agency, restrict the amount of talent so they go for top dollar. He's a top dollar talent so he gets top dollar. Its not his job to say "Knock me back 20% and use it to buy other players." First of all, the NHLPA would view you as a traitor. What would you do at your job if a coworker told your boss or the customer "Yeah just pay me less I need to do a better job?" You would be livid because their personal feelings just created a precedent everyone else has to be measured against. The only time that ever flies is late in career guys who take a big paycut after having already made their millions to be a veteran presence on a team, aka they're not commanding the top prices to begin with.
And what if they did take the cut? Do you know how you're going to turn 1.2mil into a meaningful change to your roster? Do you think you can just walk up to any player and go "here's an extra million over their offer, come to me." No. It changes by sport. In some RFA's previous team has first rights of refusal, they can match any offer to keep them and are the only ones who can offer a contract of the maximum +1 year, making their potential deal the most stable. If they're good enough to command that price, their current organization is just going to meet it and be very hostile towards you in the future. You'd be able to sign two guys on two way league minimum contracts. Those are where most of the true value players come from, but its also where most of the "never panned outs" go as well.
TLDR- Their salary means nothing to you. You know nothing of the inner workings of free agency, the player market, the inter-GM relationships. Mentioning how much they make is basically you screaming "My opinion is worthless please ignore me."
3% of the teams win every year with every team comprised of the best athletes at the sport they could find. Its not just your Sunday Beer League games where you can be the hero by stopping at 6 drinks before the game and having a massive performance advantage because of it.
If Marners tactics werent working in the postseason, you want to know why? Because teams relentlessly scout and plan how to take out the strongest elements of a team. His tactics not working are indicative of a coaching failure that they didnt switch it up and have him do something else, because obviously the top players are going to be clamped down on the entire series. And that's exactly what Florida did every step of the way, clamp down on the stars.
I just feel bad for these players because people think "He makes millions of dollars" means they stop being human or are suddenly required to win a championship. The 60 other guys on that payscale would like a word about their promised championship as well.
i think he mich marner shold make10 mileon dollers per year
this is not about mich marner it is about sme ohio person😛
Go Knights Go!
London, now Vegas!!
I bet he explodes and shows his full potential in the playoffs for the GKs😂😂😂
I don't think Mitch ever grows a beard…
Eichel only had one goal during the VGK short playoff rum. Conner McDavid rated the best player in the NHL was non-existent in the Stanley Cup finals! The Winnepeg Jets goalie Halibuk is a stone wall during the season and a seave, during the playoffs. Rantanen killed his former team the AVS but could not do anything against the Oilers. Sometimes different surroundings help a player. VGK has been to 2 Stanley Cup finals and only missed the playoffs one time, which is incredible for an expansion team. Coach Cassidy will make sure that Marner earns his keep. If I were a Leafs fan, I would be more upset with Tavares, who has never lived up to his big contract.
Having had this conversation many times, I ask you, 1) if they would be in the playoffs without him? 2) playoff hockey is far different. It is the coaches and management who have to devise a plan to succeed. Mainly secondary scoring and defense.
Putting this "playoff" crap on him just shows the hockey IQ of Leaf and some media fans. You build a playoff TEAM not a person.
This has to be the most frustrating and humorous Leaf move since the Sitler, McDonald, Thompson years and when the organization tore apart the highest scoring line in Leaf history. This is like Pocklington giving the gift of the great one to LA. Meanwhile there's another big guy on that Leaf team who gets his fingers slapped (maybe) for not showing up in the playoffs. Marner is either going to come back to bite them in the ass or just slowly go to sleep on his bed of money. I get why the fans are so frustrated but Marner is not the reason for the failure and if you think he is, then there's 20 odd other guys to blame as well.
I’m not a Leafs fan, but Marner always impressed me as soft and whiny.