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IMO, if the USA totally got RID of soccer, I wouldn't miss it ONE BIT.
I’d rather take the watermelon once per year. Once per year versus any time I walk to my car makes the lower frequency worth it, despite the larger projectile. Plus, I trust my ability to actually duck the watermelon
Patrice O'neal had the funniest American soccer take.
Here in Portlandia, you have a unique stadium with a truly unique atmosphere… check it out!
I know we’re not just talking about MLS here. But for MLS teams, 23 of the 30 teams will have soccer specific stadiums after NYC and Miami finish theirs (up to 24 teams if Chicago happens). Not bad, honestly!!
We just spent the past generation building soccer stadiums for virtually every team. Two (Columbus and Chicago) have already been replaced. How about we don't do to soccer what we've done to the Big 4 sports?
The two MSL stadiums I have been to, NJ Red Bulls and DC United, are both very nice venues. I also went to USL Loudon United, not so good, like high school football.
The Portland Timbers play in Providence Park in a nearly 100 year old venue. They remodeled it several years ago. I think it’s one of the best MLS stadiums out there with a great supporter fan base.
Id argue that for the majority of leagues don’t need drastic stadium builds just some renos and maintenance to maintain what’s currently there
Mr Brodie – Take a look at three great examples of stadiums in London.
West Ham United FC took over the London Olympic Arena, for use as their home ground.
Problem for football / soccer – Its to far away from the action. As this also is used as a multi-use stadium,
the got a track and field track between the fans and the players. It feels like miles.
Woolwich FC (AFC) built a state of the art stadium, designed by Populous (who did AT&T and more)
Still, too far from the pitch and seats are tiny. Fans complaining about it already being outdated.
Tottenham Hotspur Stadium (for now) built their multi purpose stadium as they had a deal with the NFL to host London NFL games.
While it is a multi-purpose stadium, technology made it great for its main focus – Hosting the European League Champions for games,
and a sliding turf for NFL games 2 times a year as well as countless concerts, boxing and Rugby matches.
You are so close, you smell the players and its open concords leads to a great atmosphere before and after games.
But it did not come cheap – 1.1 Billion British pounds. But that has already almost been paid up and will continue to bring revenue to the team.
as the venue get to host 35 + events outside of sports every year.
So take a look at that – because its one of the best examples of engineering at its peak!
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Even if the stadiums are smaller for MLS, they need to be unique and iconic, yes you can make them only like 20k seats but they have to stand out and be memorable. You can't match the Iconic NFL or College football stadiums in size which is what makes so many of them so memorable and unique but you can try to either with designs or other things. Until then they just look like minor league stadiums. Look at stadio Luigi Ferraris as an example of what to build. Even BMO stadium in LA got atleast somewhat of a decent feel.
A friend of mine got hit by a small truck in the Phoenix Rising parking lot, He rolled all the way up the truck over the cab and into the bed. He popped right out, put on his shoes that flew 20 feet away, and then went to the club to drink it off. The security guard saw the entire thing and said he needed to go to the ER. He said and i quote "i dont need a doctor, i need a drink. " He didnt want the Phoenix Rising to look bad so he didnt even call the cop or anyone.
That is how fanatical soccer fans are!
BMO Field (Toronto FC) is perfect for MLS IMO. Euro style stadium with a 31,000 seat capacity (can be expanded for larger events) located at Exhibition Place near the Lakeshore in the downtown area. Tore down the old Exhibition Stadium (where the Jays played from 1977-1989) and replaced it with BMO. Good public transportation options and parking.
MLS's big mistake was going the US sports route for soccer instead of the European route, have relegation and promotion. Keep the league smaller, down to like 18 or 20 teams. Make the games and teams matter. Allow teams from cities that don't have other sports teams to get behind their team and support them. Would naturally create fans when there is no other teams in the city and all the sudden your team is winning and top of league.
Don Garber can have some brand-new MLS professional soccer expansion teams somewhere possible in the USA & Canada like: Pittsburgh, Indy, Phoenix, Detroit, Vegas, Cleveland, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Virginia Beach, Louisville, Sacramento, Little Rock, Edmonton, Winnipeg & so many other brand-new soccer teams in USA & Canada for fanbase, booyah!🏟🏟🏟🏟🏟🏟⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽⚽🥅🥅🥅🥅🥅🥅
I believe soccer (MLS & USL) should build their own stadiums as long as it privately funded.
I once asked everyone's favorite guy Dave Kaval why there aren't any concerts at the Quakes stadium. He told me it had something to do with the airport. That's a shame. The sight lines for a show at that venue would be awesome. And, it would be a good alternative to the nightmare of the Shoreline and the horrible acoustics at the tank.
Soccer needs to be removed from the states at all levels. Let the world play with their balls and we have our sports. So many youth sport have been ruined because of it.
Hated to see the decrepit Los Angeles Sports Arena demolished due to the number of events I saw over the years at the venue, but the new BMO Stadium really fits into Exposition Park.
soccer is gay
In a america. Soccer is niche market. Smaller investment. To help grow a certain area. I don't mind. I even proudly say do it.
TQL Stadium in Cincinnati is an awesome stadium, consequently their average attendance is over 25,000 per game
Not having relegation works for the NFL, or MLB, or NBA as college is the minor league essentially for all of them (yes the mlb has the minors but college baseball clears). D1 soccer is abysmal at best, thus you need to have a relegation and promotion system to have wider array of fans.
25k-35k capacity is that sweet spot
Soccer would only attract more immigrants… HARD PASS!!!
Interesting topic as being over the pond. I found the comment about lasting 20-30 years. Stadiums over here are, in the main, over 100 years old! Since the premier league era, a good number of new Stadiums have been built, even some of these are 30 years old. Space is more of an issue here.
No they don’t need better soccer stadiums , America doesn’t love soccer that much to build bigger stadiums maybe in the future when fan bases increase but as of now the stadiums they have now work just fine most MLS teams can’t sell out a 25,000 seat stadium
Having visited a number of soccer stadiums in Europe, I can comfortably say that MLS venues are almost universally better. They pay zero attention to accesibility, seating is an afterthought, scoreboards are mostly comparable what you saw in US venues in the 90s, concourses are poorly planned, concessions are a mess. They do a great job of providing public transit access to their venues though, I'll give them that.
"Soccer-specific" stadium has always been a vexed term– there obviously was a need for a ~25K seater for things besides futbol, e.g., HS grid championship games, some smaller college grid games, the PLL, MLR (if that league can get its act together!), internationals in one of the above other sports. But the MLS team has to be the anchor tenant.
The worst has to be NYCFC playing on a makeshift (narrower than FIFA standard) pitch across the Yankee Stadium outfield.
I think MLS for the most part has very nice stadiums. Especially with Chicago, NYCFC and Miami building their new stadiums as well. I have hope the new owners for the Earthquakes can eventually build a new stadium and actually take care of the team. Dallas, New England and Real Salt Lake need to build new stadiums as well.