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Honestly, as a Red Wings fan, my advice to them is do not keep Lalonde handling their defensive system. I think any Red Wings fan would say the same.
Scrap the rest of the core 4, move on
The leafs are run terribly and the management is bad because the GM can't fire the coach without worrying about his job 😅 not a very good workplace you would think
The leafs need to shake up this group it's almost been 10 years now. There are 4 players (used to be 5) who have been here the whole time. That's where you start IMO.
Dubas traded a 1st round pick to ditch 1 year of Marleau's contract. That player? Seth Jarvis…
They always look like they're on the penalty kill: abysmal on possession and handling in their own end; no sustained pressure in the o-zone. This is borne out by a) being horribly out shot and b) a lack of PP opportunities (currently at the bottom of the league). You don't draw penalties if you don't have the puck and if you are maintaining possession.
Whatever system they are using, it's not working. Either they can't execute it or they won't. On the flip side, and with some irony, their top offense is pretty good. They are scoring enough to win. Defensively, they are a disaster.
Marner was never the (regular season) problem.
Tavares isn't and wasn't the problem.
Mathews is not the problem, but hey fans and media, let's drive another good player out. That should work.
Watched a Flyers-Rangers hilight reel today, the return of Lindros to Philadelphia. There was a game with energy and punch, figuratively and literally. Attitude and drive on both sides, up and down the line. Leafs don't have that. They don't believe in themselves. It's a self fulfilling prophecy in Toronto that they can't do it.
I think the Leafs organization as a whole has a locker room/culture problem. Their players don't see this organization as a serious, winning organization, it's a paycheque until they can move on to a "proper" winning team. They don't see themselves as a dominant, winning team, and they don't see themselves as scrappy underdogs fighting for contention.
When it's all stripped down, the guys on the team gotta want to win together, and for each other, and this current leafs roster just doesn't hate losing. I think the solution starts with an empty Jersey that has the "C" stitched to it, but I think the problem goes deeper and requires a fundamental cultural shift in the organization.
They have no trade capital, they fucked it up, they are now stuck.
I blame the new defensive coach.
As a Leafs fan thanks for an honest and level headed approach to the video. Always love your content. Oh the Leafs… lol GLG.
12:16 Connor McMichael was drafted 25th overall. You can absolutely draft very, very well that far into the draft. It's really important to understand that the Leafs have been hemorrhaging their future in a "win now" mode for the better part of a half decade. That's hard to justify with… What 2 rounds won?
honestly idk they will probably make the playoffs but anything after nah
They don't have a good enough defensive game. Since about 1995 😜
No way Matthews is worth what he is being paid. Goals in regular season are nice but he is invisible in playoffs. Get a lower cost center and some high draft picks for him. Get faster and look like you enjoy playing the game. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze.
Man this is gonna be awesome to watch unfold lol
Let’s get together yeah yeah yeah
I don't even watch them play they are sad, no effort no guts nobody
Lol no joke team
No
The Leafs will get it together…long enough to give their fans hope and then they'll fall apart in some painful fashion. Tradition is tradition.
I don’t like the leafs but I feel bad for them. It never looks like they are playing with intensity and reckless abandon that endears a team to its fans. They need some emotion from their leaders.
As a team, are they same or better in points from last year?
Good breakdown of the sorry ass leafs
A pediatric heart surgeon in USA , average salary is 375,000/year.
Doesn't matter how many goals anyone scores on this team when none of them can play defense.
I was kinda sad when he said that he won't be mentioning the 1st round picks that Toronto traded away, so I'll put my fav one here:
They sent their 2020 1st along with Patrick Marleau to Carolina in a cap dump, which the Canes used to draft SETH JARVIS!
Only 2 of their 8 wins did they lead the game and win the other 6, they had to come-from-behind to win, it's just shows you.Their defense is terrible.
THG talking about the Leafs 1st round picks and a player that pops in my mind is Seth Jarvis
Could do the same video for Saint Louis. Blues look all out of sorts.
As per the Blackhawks W today I’m gonna go with NO
That’s the eternal Toronto question, isn’t it? On paper the core is too talented to keep wasting seasons, but “getting it together” means defence, goaltending, and game management finally catching up to the offence. Do you think this is the year they actually learn how to win ugly, not just win pretty?
Replying to title – No, not as long as AM34 is captain of this team. This guy is so overrated. Never shows up in the playoffs, is way too fragile, always hurt, plays scared. But usually, these attributes only surface in April. This year, without MM16, they are already surfacing in November. And I’m not a MM16 fan – so this is not meant to pump Mitchie’s tires. This is more so an indictment of Matthews. He is not worthy of his cap hit – please argue against this if you disagree. He never comes through in the clutch and always has a mysterious injury that nobody is allowed to ask about. He is a horrible leader – and it’s a joke that he’s captain. He would be good as an option 1b or 2 somewhere else. Please AM34 – leave and allow the Leafs to reset.
Honestly maybe it’s copeium, but I still haven’t given up on this team. We are in the top 5 teams in the league for goals for, a bunch of our players are stepping up offensively. Our issue is a massive defensive collapse. We have the same players in the D this year as last year, they are struggling. I have confidence they will return to at least average. If that happens, I think we will be okay.
The Leafs window closed on July 1, 2025 when they failed to get anything more for their 100 point All-Star winger than a depth 3C piece.
All the D core is over 30 and slow on foot speed.
No real prospects other than Cowan.
Not much depth scoring
JT isn't gonna stay this productive for long, Father Time always wins.
Most crucially, Matthews does not look near the 69 goal man he was just 2 seasons ago. His mystery chronic injury looks to have cut his prime short prematurely.
The biggest question now is how soon does Treliving see the signs, and can he get something decent in return (this time for Nylander?) to start the inevitable rebuild.
THG have you ever seen a team as talented as this (especially over the last 5/6 years) achieve so little
Are we going to be looking back at this generation of Leafs as the biggest fumble in NHL history?
Well they didn't
What happened to Woll?
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In response to the title of the video, I see it quite possible the Leafs will only get things together after they have gone on a losing streak similar to that which, during the 2023–24 NBA-NHL season, the Detroit Pistons went on (28 games, broken only by a narrow win over the Raptors late that December).
You want to make a change
BUTTTTTTT
You don't want to trade futures
You don't want to trade any of the New Core
You can't trade a GT
And none of the other roster players are worth anything that will move the needle
You're stuck
My suggestion?
You move Treliving to a Consultant Position
You promote Berube to GM. Pelley already talks to Berube more than traditional NHL organizations.
And you bring in a New HC.
A New Voice. New eyes. New everything.
And you shake up the players you already have.
But it has to be an experienced HC. DeBoer or Bruce Again or Peter Lala or someone like that.
But NOT Torts.
You only bring in Torts if you want to clean house and have all your high salary NMCs begging to be traded.
The Leafs are so fascinating to me. I am no fan, but I love watching videos about them.
This aged… blackhawksly
lol but you had them 9th in the power rakings for some strange reason
Easy answer is no. Matthews is the problem.
Just like how Boston had to trade Thornton to make a culture shift, Toronto needs to do the same. Matthews is not a leader, he does well for himself, but does nothing for the team. Nothing.
The Leafs are the laughing stock of the NHL.