Chaque jour que je viens sur ce subreddit, je vois toujours au moins 10 personnes réclamant le licenciement de Taco…. Les gars, avec la façon dont se déroule la LNH maintenant, nous n’avons que 2 saisons de plus (au maximum) avec Taco derrière le banc, espérons juste qu’il pourra nous obtenir un solide top 10 tout en rendant les matchs divertissants à regarder pour le reste de l’année….
Quiconque pensait que nous étions sérieusement une équipe en séries éliminatoires se fait des illusions : il nous faudra encore environ 3 à 5 ans pour devenir de sérieux prétendants, à mon avis.
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> Anyone who though we were seriously a playoff team is delusional we are still about 3-5 years out from being serious contenders imo
But on the negative side, the people who think this are still employed in our front office
Tocc is awful. His random line combos, his over-use of terrible players like Hathaway, his low usage of Michkov, his complete cluelessness on how to install consistancy.
The problem is that it’s not one or the other. A) we could easily remain just below contender level but never in lottery pick range, And B) certain coaching can hinder development, especially when a job is on the line. The young talent we have now could be squandered by a coach who is poor at developing players or who does not have a long term outlook
The Flyers are definitely not 3-5 years from serious contending.
>Anyone who though we were seriously a playoff team is delusional we are still about 3-5 years out from being serious contenders imo
We’ve been 3-5 years away for a decade. When does the number start going down?
The « Delusional » thing was hiring back to back « Win now » coaches while not having a win now roster. This team abandoned the rebuild after Torts called them losers because Comcasts panties got in a bunch. They shouldn’t even have the word playoffs in their vocabulary without a top 3 pick in the system
At some point they are gonna have to take a big swing at talent. A number 1 center , a number 1 defenseman etc The flyers don’t have a great history of drafting these types.
It’s not the coach.
Two more seasons of sucking I can stomach, but what if those two seasons of Tocc cost us Michkov?
Love the Taco Tank!!!
He needs better players to be effective.
We don’t have those yet.
Can we beat the Rags to a better pick????
no one in this sub watches the games
Agreed that a high draft pick might be a bright side of his tenure as coach. Hard disagree that these games are entertaining.
> also making the games entertaining to watch for the rest of the year….
Hate to tell you this, but Tocchet hockey is about the furthest thing from that.
“Fun to watch but also top ten pick” what team that sucks enough to get a top 10 pick is gonna be fun to watch? Cant have your cake and eat it too
I’m hoping this is the case. Hes just here to finish what Torts was doing with the squad (intensity and defensive structure) without telling a core player that he’ll bury them and outright hating the captain. I’m starting to get sick of Toch but I’m not that mad about his relationship with Mich. Mich hasn’t found the scoring touch, but he’s also not doing any cherry picking. I would guess his usage on the left might be more to do with getting out of his tendency to cheat up the ice. I like that he is putting brink, Z and Michkov on the same line with sheltered third line pairings. They need some time to gel. It’s too funny people here are acting like it didn’t work and tochs an idiot for trying it after one game…everybody needs to chill out. This place is too much like twitter these days
I’m tired of hearing this “We’re not a playoff team…three to five years away…” crap. If Vegas can gather spare parts from around the league and make a playoff run up to the end, and do it all in their first year, then any team can do it.
We have a few players with heart and then a ton of check collectors who just clock in and then clock out.
Ask players if they want to stay or go. Keep the ones who want to be here; offload those who don’t.
In the meantime, make it entertaining if we’re just going to tank and barely spend on good players.
Tocchet has a 5 yr deal at $5 million a year. He is not going anywhere for at least 2 if not 3 more seasons.
>let’s just hope he can get us a solid top 10 pick **while also making the games entertaining** to watch for the rest of the year….
Have you watched the games?! This is by far the most boring team I have ever seen the Flyers ice in my 30+ yrs of fandom. Even just comparing to Torts this is boring af hockey. At least with Torts we would get short handed goals and an unchained Mich. Toccs system is literally late 90’s dump and chase.
I was fully out on this team last night after Michkov got leveled and no one did shit. It’s not a discussion about if that’s the way people should handle hits. It’s the fact that he went and fought after Barkey was laid out. But no one showed up for him.
This kid does everything right. He takes all the criticism given to him. He talks about doing the right thing. He doesn’t create conflict, he just wants to play hockey and be great. But he’s stapled to checkers.
And the NHL coach that at least fucking understood what he could be was ousted by soft players crying. Soft players that are proving this year he was right, and they’re not taking another step.
This core needs to be shaken up so bad and I can only pray there’s some road where Michkov still gives the organization a chance before just requesting a trade.
This fanbase has a reputation of being impatient, impulsive and down right delusional. Coaching isn’t the problem here…..its the lack of skill.
What changed from last year other than a change behind the bench? Zegras and Vladar. To both of their defenses, they have kept this team competitive for half the season but they are running out of steam. One could argue that prior to the season, the Flyers were expected to land a top 5 pick and if it wasn’t the play of those two players, they absolutely would land a top 5 pick. Fans in this sub in particular expect them to win the cup every year and 95% of them don’t understand the timeline of a rebuild. Danny B been in the job for almost 3 years and has accumulated picks, prospects and cleaned up the books. This takes time and we’re not even at the halfway mark of the rebuild. Flyers don’t have a 1C, top 2 dman or a #1 goalie. We can argue Vladar all we like but there’s needs to be more a sample size before we can peg him as a #1 goalie in this league. Rick Toccet has improved on Torts and this roster is punching above his weight. We enjoyed the ride to 45 games but now we need to come back to reality and call it was it is. Top 10 picks isn’t out of the question and looking at the standings, Flyers should absolutely be tanking.
I don’t see any path for this team being a contender in any time line with the current strategy unless something changes. There is no indication that the guys coming are better than the guys here already. The maximum potential i see with this group is Islanders good if everything turns out well.
Okay, but who is the guy in the middle of having an orgasm in the lower right of the pic
We’ve been saying we are 2 years out of being a contender for 13 years…
When you go to whatever they named the arena the Flyers play in, the biggest lit sign in there says;
WELCOME TO COMCAST COUNTRY.
That is the problem.
That.
anyone saying Taco should be fired
No bright side to that picture, any picture, with Taco in it.
Nobody thought we’d be a playoff team coming into the season. But the fact we were in playoff position and playing good hockey for about half the season, only to turn into a tire fire out of nowhere, with seemingly no way to right the ship is the problem
“3-5 years away” indicates zero progress. The worst team in the NHL that has yet to enter a rebuild is also 3-5 years away.
Honestly idk what all the complaints are about lol, we are so much better then last year and being in a rebuild your exactly right why are we expecting a cup and asking to fire taco half way through the season. We need to drop deslauries and Hathaway id rather bring some guys up from the phantoms the run them.
I can’t stand the commercial where it’s Tocchet talking about passionate fans who are just so passionate.
And how they’re getting better now and for the future.
Which almost makes no sense.
It’s like banging your head against the wall.
We’re 5 years away from being 5 years away.
Comcast is the problem. Comcast is pulling the strings and just rotates flyers out there to be the face of their mismanagement.
Yall are crazy.. we’re winning the cup in 2027.
Yes! And let’s let him run Michkov out of town too before he even gets a shake of a chance at development while we’re at it! Yanno, this whole accountability bullshit only goes so far, especially when you consider our GM, who scored a fuck ton of goals was a liability out there on defense and couldn’t be assed to play it. And he still ALWAYS got minutes!
Tocchet is in the same boat that Torts was….given a goalie that the GM says, « I expect a bounce back year from Ersson »….ranked 80th in save percentage, 80th!!!! Worse than most back-ups in the league, are you f’ng kidding me!?!? How the F is he still on the team?!….NOT going to win with that!!! Don’t fire a coach that’s been here for 50 games during a ‘rebuild’, with an AHL caliber goalie. This falls squarely on Briere!