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ChalupaBatman09
At the start of the year, we found ourselves in a great cap situation both short and long term. Fast forward a few months and we’ve since traded for Danault (5.5M) and signed (1M) and extended (2.5M) Texier which has eaten up a lot of our short term flexibility.
We currently sit over the cap for the season (most of that is having too many skaters on the roster).
Heading into the offseason, the only UFA we have coming off the books is Laine and the cap is going up an average of 8M per year for the next three years. Between the two, that should open over 16M in cap space. However, assuming no other moves, Hutson is getting an 7.9M raise, Matheson is getting a 1.1M raise, Texier is getting a 1.5M raise, Bolduc will likely get a 2M raise and Dach might get a 1M raise. That’s 13.5M of that 16M already spoken for.
In addition to all that, we came into this year with 1.75M in carryover performance bonuses, which Demidov, Kapanen, Hutson will likely achieve again, or even surpass.
So while yes, we could technically move Laine right now to free up space for a Thomas/Parayko/Petterson/Ristolainen or a rental, we would still need to move future salary as well to accommodate them into the lineup. We could probably do so by adding any two of Bolduc/Dach/Carrier/Newhook/Evans to the trade (or a separate trade) but I’m often seeing people either trying to propose trades for players using only futures (Hage/Zharovsky/Reinbacher/picks) with no salary going back or hoping to get both an established C and a RD, which we just don’t have the room for.
Why can’t we just start paying teams to dump off bad contracts like Danault/Anderson/Gallagher and afford such trades or offseason signings? Because the following offseason even that 17.5M in salary coming off the books is also pretty much accounted for. Demidov will get an 8M raise, Kapanen will get a 4-5M raise, Newhook will get a 2-3M raise, we’ll probably try to bring back Danault as our only left handed C and Anderson for his physicality on cheaper veteran contracts (maybe 2M each), and on top of that we’ll have to figure out what we’re doing with goaltending as both their contracts are up and Fowler’s knocking on the door. So even with the 8M cap raise, we won’t have too much to play with.
Where our cap situation starts to shine is in years 3-5 where every good player we have is locked in to solid deals and we start getting some impactful young players (Hage/Zharovsky/Reinbacher) on ELCs making key contributions and hopefully helping push for a cup as Suzuki and Caufield did in 2021. But in the short term, things are a bit tighter than they might seem.
CocoKing02
Istg everytime i look at this there’s an extra year I didnt anticipate for Gally and Andy. Holy those contracts were long
WhoOwnstheChiefs
They have people to figure this out , I wouldn’t spent however long you spent writing this . They know what they are doing
kozed
Capfriendly. PTSD. Fuck the Caps.
chickenceas
Gallagher reminding us why being player focused is always a bad idea
mdubyo
Next year or 2027-2028 is most likely the year we’d be going all in anyways…
Otherwise_Cod_3478
We have 90.1M$ in contracts for next season. Add Xhekaj at 2.5M$, Bolduc 3M$, Dach 4.5M$ (just for the sake of the discussion). That mean 99.6M$ of cap space for 13 forwards, 7 D and 2 Goalies. That would leave us at minimum 4.4M$
I don’t see really an issues. Yes sure if we get someone at 8M$ and we don’t send money out that doesn’t work, but that’s the same reality than almost all the good teams. The Avs, Vegas, Boston, Tampa, etc. They also are near the cap and they can always find a way to make it work in trades.
Trade proposal by fans are not a good measure of what the team will do.
BlankoNinyo
Gally lti-retiring wouldn’t be surprising
Automatic-Profile-22
Anderson earns his money in the playoffs. Hopefully Danault will too. My love of Gallagher and everything he’s given to this team make it impossible for me to see him playing for another team. But yes, those 3 on a 4th line eat way more cap than they should.
24Archduke
we have 14M available next season
I don’t think Dach starts the next season in Montreal
1.5M for Xhekaj & 3.5M for Bolduc(generous on that one most likely less)
9M for new additions and a couple guy on ELC
It’s not great, but it’s not that bad
Aceekay
Our bottom six is truly a bit of a mess right now. Evans, gallagher, Anderson, Dach, Danault, Bolduc I don’t dislike any of them, but we need to cement our lines better and identify who we want to keep as regulars. I think part of this problem is residual from being a team that was rebuilding two years ago, still dealing with the aftermath of a rebuild.
The top six makes sense slaf, Suzuki, Caufield, Demidov, kapanen, newhook. I think you can make cases moving kapanen and Dach. We just need to address 2c moving forward, is Kapanen the 2c? Do we try and add a player instead? Who do we move to make space? Does newhook play wing on the 2nd line or does kapanen.
I think we need to go into the trade deadline with the mindset of holding pat and waiting for the dust to settle in the offseason, move the players we think are redundant to make improvements as well as anticipate the paydays for Demidov, Kapanen and newhook. They are all going to get a significant bump after next season, some of that is going to be off set by the cap increase though.
Aggressive-Focus9349
All of the key cogs are signed, though.
Alternative-Tart8527
true low effort post right here lol
Nodicemtg
This really isn’t a big deal, all the contracts that need to, fall off the books in time to make space for pay raises for young players. Long term building. We don’t need cap space right now…
Nodicemtg
I think that you might find out, it is in fact, the fan trade proposals are not going to happen and we don’t need cap because we are not making a bunch of Vegas style moves. We are continuing to build slow and steady. Not sexy, but it is so much better in the long run.
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At the start of the year, we found ourselves in a great cap situation both short and long term. Fast forward a few months and we’ve since traded for Danault (5.5M) and signed (1M) and extended (2.5M) Texier which has eaten up a lot of our short term flexibility.
We currently sit over the cap for the season (most of that is having too many skaters on the roster).
Heading into the offseason, the only UFA we have coming off the books is Laine and the cap is going up an average of 8M per year for the next three years. Between the two, that should open over 16M in cap space. However, assuming no other moves, Hutson is getting an 7.9M raise, Matheson is getting a 1.1M raise, Texier is getting a 1.5M raise, Bolduc will likely get a 2M raise and Dach might get a 1M raise. That’s 13.5M of that 16M already spoken for.
In addition to all that, we came into this year with 1.75M in carryover performance bonuses, which Demidov, Kapanen, Hutson will likely achieve again, or even surpass.
So while yes, we could technically move Laine right now to free up space for a Thomas/Parayko/Petterson/Ristolainen or a rental, we would still need to move future salary as well to accommodate them into the lineup. We could probably do so by adding any two of Bolduc/Dach/Carrier/Newhook/Evans to the trade (or a separate trade) but I’m often seeing people either trying to propose trades for players using only futures (Hage/Zharovsky/Reinbacher/picks) with no salary going back or hoping to get both an established C and a RD, which we just don’t have the room for.
Why can’t we just start paying teams to dump off bad contracts like Danault/Anderson/Gallagher and afford such trades or offseason signings? Because the following offseason even that 17.5M in salary coming off the books is also pretty much accounted for. Demidov will get an 8M raise, Kapanen will get a 4-5M raise, Newhook will get a 2-3M raise, we’ll probably try to bring back Danault as our only left handed C and Anderson for his physicality on cheaper veteran contracts (maybe 2M each), and on top of that we’ll have to figure out what we’re doing with goaltending as both their contracts are up and Fowler’s knocking on the door. So even with the 8M cap raise, we won’t have too much to play with.
Where our cap situation starts to shine is in years 3-5 where every good player we have is locked in to solid deals and we start getting some impactful young players (Hage/Zharovsky/Reinbacher) on ELCs making key contributions and hopefully helping push for a cup as Suzuki and Caufield did in 2021. But in the short term, things are a bit tighter than they might seem.
Istg everytime i look at this there’s an extra year I didnt anticipate for Gally and Andy. Holy those contracts were long
They have people to figure this out , I wouldn’t spent however long you spent writing this . They know what they are doing
Capfriendly. PTSD. Fuck the Caps.
Gallagher reminding us why being player focused is always a bad idea
Next year or 2027-2028 is most likely the year we’d be going all in anyways…
We have 90.1M$ in contracts for next season. Add Xhekaj at 2.5M$, Bolduc 3M$, Dach 4.5M$ (just for the sake of the discussion). That mean 99.6M$ of cap space for 13 forwards, 7 D and 2 Goalies. That would leave us at minimum 4.4M$
I don’t see really an issues. Yes sure if we get someone at 8M$ and we don’t send money out that doesn’t work, but that’s the same reality than almost all the good teams. The Avs, Vegas, Boston, Tampa, etc. They also are near the cap and they can always find a way to make it work in trades.
Trade proposal by fans are not a good measure of what the team will do.
Gally lti-retiring wouldn’t be surprising
Anderson earns his money in the playoffs. Hopefully Danault will too. My love of Gallagher and everything he’s given to this team make it impossible for me to see him playing for another team. But yes, those 3 on a 4th line eat way more cap than they should.
we have 14M available next season
I don’t think Dach starts the next season in Montreal
1.5M for Xhekaj & 3.5M for Bolduc(generous on that one most likely less)
9M for new additions and a couple guy on ELC
It’s not great, but it’s not that bad
Our bottom six is truly a bit of a mess right now. Evans, gallagher, Anderson, Dach, Danault, Bolduc I don’t dislike any of them, but we need to cement our lines better and identify who we want to keep as regulars. I think part of this problem is residual from being a team that was rebuilding two years ago, still dealing with the aftermath of a rebuild.
The top six makes sense slaf, Suzuki, Caufield, Demidov, kapanen, newhook. I think you can make cases moving kapanen and Dach. We just need to address 2c moving forward, is Kapanen the 2c? Do we try and add a player instead? Who do we move to make space? Does newhook play wing on the 2nd line or does kapanen.
I think we need to go into the trade deadline with the mindset of holding pat and waiting for the dust to settle in the offseason, move the players we think are redundant to make improvements as well as anticipate the paydays for Demidov, Kapanen and newhook. They are all going to get a significant bump after next season, some of that is going to be off set by the cap increase though.
All of the key cogs are signed, though.
true low effort post right here lol
This really isn’t a big deal, all the contracts that need to, fall off the books in time to make space for pay raises for young players. Long term building. We don’t need cap space right now…
I think that you might find out, it is in fact, the fan trade proposals are not going to happen and we don’t need cap because we are not making a bunch of Vegas style moves. We are continuing to build slow and steady. Not sexy, but it is so much better in the long run.