[Donnie & Dhali] Elliotte Friedman à propos des Canucks et Elias Pettersson (l’attaquant) : « Ouais. Vous savez, je pense que le très gros défi avec ça, c’est que les Canucks ne veulent pas prendre d’argent. Oui, exactement. Et on leur a encore demandé cette année, et ils ont dit non. »
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seeldoger47
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conversation starts around 56:20 (transcript was automatically generated):
>Well, you guys had Mitch Marner, you went through the whole thing. Vancouver’s got Elias Petterson, it never ends. Do you see a scenario this summer where he gets traded?
You know, I’ve been on two shows today, and I got the Petterson question.
Yeah, you have to.
Yeah. You know, I think the really big challenge with that, Rick, is that, I think the really big challenge there is that the Canucks don’t want to take money. Yes, exactly.”
>And they were asked again about it this year, and they said no. And, you know, right now his value is down. So, you know, I’m not convinced that the offers that they were getting on Petterson, or as far as they went.
>I don’t know that anything really got too far down the road. But as far as it went, I don’t think they would be getting the same offers now on Petterson that they maybe would have a year ago or at the beginning of the year. I have no doubt that when the season is over, they’ll sit down, they’ll talk to them again, they’ll see where it is.
>But the honest best answer, Rick, might simply be, have a great summer, come back. And I mean, if everybody really wants to move on, the best way to do it is for Petterson to come back, play great, and they go that way, right? Because I just heard, the one thing I did hear is that even some teams that like Petterson, their offers may not have been as strong because he just hasn’t played well.
You know, the problem with that, Elliotte, is that, you know, from all reports, they had that conversation last summer with him.
We went through this.
You know, but, you know, I understand that, Don. Look, like, I’ve been in situations before where I’m not 100% happy where I’ve worked and or I wasn’t happy with my situation at work. And, you know, you have two choices.
>You can kind of coast through life like that or you can say, I’m going to do what I can to make it better. And, you know, I just think that if you’re the Canucks, you have two choices right now. You can try to trade them at whatever percentage on the dollar, or you can say, if we really want to make this better, you have to do that too.
Why bother trading him if you have to take money back? What’s the hurry. He isn’t doing much to hurt the tank. He can’t be that much of a locker room cancer. And then if he starts producing and messing up the tank next year, boom trade him. Draft Landon DuPont, Bedard, celebrini demand trades only to here. Give them peanuts. Stanley Cup. Easy.
I cant listen to it to get the context, but does anyone know what he means by they « dont want to take money »? Does he mean they won’t take a big contract back? Or does he mean they wont retain?
Management will be forced to do something sooner or later.
You can’t have people with half the cap hit on pace to match or beat Ep40’s output and pretend there isn’t a problem
Is this just repurposed content from last week?
We are tanking for the next couple seasons. We should take on bad contracts not trying to get rid of them. This whole rush to move Petey is dumb.
Not to mention that Colton Parayko, and Tyler Myers to a lesser extent, have shown all the players in the league that it’s ok to veto trades when you have trade protection.
I often wonder where Pettersson and this team would be if we kept Horvat and traded Miller instead. Petey and Miller being such polar opposites really split that room and I wonder if Petey felt like he was the odd man out.
I still think Pettersson has the talent to be a top player but he needs to be built back up mentally. I just don’t think there are many currently in this organization that can do it.
Ever since he signed that contract, this FO has drummed up a bunch of noise around the player. He’s only performed worse and every team knows we’re trying to offload a player who apparently has a work ethic problem. What good has any of this done? Why not just back your player and show confidence in him and see what results that yields. Or completely shut up about it. One or the other.
These guys are shit.
People are idiots.
Trading Pettersson now makes no sense from an « asset management » perspective, his value is very low and as has been discussed multiple times including here teams will want the Canucks to retain or take back a bad contract in a deal. The better option for this would be to hold onto Petey and try rehab his value to the team or as a trade asset.
The wrench in this plan is that you are rebuilding and Petey has been a lightning rod for controversy. You want to remove as many distractions as possible. The talk about the locker room vibes being better since the deadline helps ease this issue going into the off-season and next season.
Personally I think drawing a line in the sand about not taking back bad contracts and/or retaining on Petey’s contract in any potential deal is a smart move at this point. You hope that he can find his game enough to either make a trade happen where the Canucks don’t have to have any bad money or he can be part of the future with the Canucks.