Ils ont été élus la pire organisation Rayn de la ligue ainsi que le deuxième pire front office avec lequel traiter, selon un sondage de l’Athletic auprès des agents de la ligue. (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7184562/2026/04/13/nhl-agent-poll-contract-commissioner-safety/)
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DelviewsNightmare
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People are just realizing this? lol
Yay!
No plan is accurate
Team in last getting bad reviews is not all too shocking. Hopefully, this leads to them figuring their shit out since they’re at fully rock bottom right now.
Yet people blame Hughes and Tocchet for quitting on the team. If I worked for management as bad as this and had a choice to go elsewhere in my job, I definitely would. And so would most of the people calling them quitters
A « reward » rightly deserved.
If Aquilini could have gotten out of his own way sooner, we’d have done an actual proper rebuild. Alas, that moron insisted on dragging corpse after corpse of a « contender » til we had no real option but to rebuild.
And it’s not even certain we’ll commit to it the next few years too. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if we do end up with McKenna and suddenly management as a whole declares the rebuild over.
All of this _before_ even getting into the mess of Pettersson/Miller, bending over backwards for Hughes and several questionable contracts.
When were these questions asked? It seems like racing to the bottom to get the first pick has been the obvious plan for months now.
Are these quotes from the article linked? Or have some other citation?
That quote on the second page is the key one, “good people, nice guys” and “just a discombobulation”.
This is how we know the problem is ownership. Management is capable, but they can’t have a coherent strategy because Aqua will always step into meddle with brain dead moves like bringing in Kane this year. It’s incoherent because management sets a strategy but then ownership will randomly force moves counter to that strategy.
That’s why I don’t think it matters who’s in management with this team. If Rutherford wasn’t strong enough of a leader to keep the Aqualinis from meddling then no one will be. This team needs to be run into the ground until they’re forced to sell.
Yeah, we know.
People seem to enjoy kicking someone when their down. It was so obvious what they have been trying to do the last few years, there was a plan in place. That plan changed with the Hughes decision. It’s not rocket science.
They have a plan if you look at it through the lens of enshitification. Ownership does everything they can to try to ensure short term profit, even at the expense of long term gains.
This means that corners get cut wherever possible and the future is seen only as far as the next quarterly report (if lucky).
I work for the same type of owner. We’ve cut so many corners the whole system is basically round. The difference between the company I work for and the NHL is that you do have some owners that refuse to play that game. Whereas the company I work for is barely a shell of itself from where we were 5 years ago, yet somehow we’re still slightly better than our competitors. Just as we were 5 years ago. They’re all doing the same thing.
Agents can’t extort top dollar for mid free agents from rebuilding last place team, details at 11.
That comment about not having the infrastructure to remove excuses is a very good one
Starts at the top.
It’s. The. Ownership.
Both Vancouver and Abbotsford teams were a complete failure this year. Abbotsford taking a huge step back should be a bigger story but I understand why it isn’t…
The best thing that happened to this team is other teams are holding onto their talent more often. This means lean free agency periods, forcing the Canucks to build by drafting instead of free agent signings and trades.
I still have no faith they’ll rebuild properly, frankly, everyone should be concerned they’re going to do a poor job and we will end up in the mushy middle again in 3-5 years.
Ownership sucks and they know fuck all about running a hockey team.
We’re hardly the first team to be like this, but it sucks anyways.
This is a culture problem, which inevitably comes directly from the top.
At the end of the day, Canucks fans who spend their hard earned money on the team should realize that they’re enabling rotten ownership that doesn’t have winning in his DNA, rather exploitation and deception.
Look at the rest of his businesses and you’ll discover toxic offices, union busting, and shady deals that tell you who he is. The current state of the team reflects the culture he embodies.
From the very beginning, remember, Francisco screwed his would-be partners Ryan Beedie and Tom Gagliardi.
That was his culture back then. This is the culture of the team now.
Canucks fans: stop giving this man your money until he sells.
Outside of the crappy ownership being brought to light , I noticed that the bottom two teams on this list have one thing in common: JT Miller.
Better ask the owner what the plan is. But don’t be surprised to get your media pass taken away if he doesn’t like the tone it was asked. The rot has always been at the top. Until the filthy stink of this ownership is gone. We are overcooked!
Sell the team and bring back Mike Gillis and Trevor Linden.
Somehow this team got worse and the people that did that still have jobs. We need another Gillis to help modernize this org to be competitive organizationally again. These kids want the perks of being in the NHL and you can’t count on just team loyalty anymore.
It would be odd for any last place team to be able to attract the top free agents. The only concern would be trying to trade for players with NTC.
We aren’t really buyers in the upcoming free agency. So the NTC players we should be targeting would be damaged goods/change of scenery types. It would be more up to the trade partner to convince their guys to move on to us.
Once we get rid of some baggage, and draft some promise, we should be more attractive to agents.
Canucks ownership is trash, starts at the top
JR is too old to build a modern organization.
Allvin isn’t allowed to do anything.
The org is already leaking Allvin is getting fired….and who cares? He’s not really the GM anyway.
If the path forward is a new GM and JR who will still have his own vision I really don’t see this org bumbling its way into relevance.
Nobody wants to come here…..and I’m sure players no longer want to even be drafted here.
I feel bad for our players. Of all the teams they could play for they’re here in Vancouver
This is why I get bothered by the “culture” talk being consistently pointed to the locker room.
Not saying it’s not a problem at all, but as you can see other agents don’t want their players playing here because how difficult it is mentally.
Canucks have a culture problem but it’s at ownership and then front office.
I have no idea how Ryan Johnson is as a team builder or talent evaluator but I do know him and Manny will install a great culture that this generation of kids would love. This team needs that as bad as it needs high end talent.
Who cares, we’re fans.
It shouldn’t matter.
Just watch the sport.
Social media has ruined being a fan of sports.
How did Aqua let us go from being one of the best run organizations to the literal worst? I was too young to appreciate it back then so I’ve only known pain
Guaranteed that if those are the kinds of statements NHL agents are making, the sentiments and personal views from NHL players on the dumpster fire raging in Vancouver would likely be far worse.
Next.
The best part about this: the people inside the organization don’t think it’s this bad. Their heads are too far up Aqua’s ass.
The plan is the hybrid retool reboot though right?
Just curious but are we not rebuilding with 8 picks in the first two rounds 2 years in a row? Why should we care about what the agents of 31-40 year old players think?
We have an opportunity to tank and generate young talent here with multiple high picks for once, I don’t feel like signing 38 year old Nick Foligno or 33 year old Kevin Hayes would be valuable unless they’re getting flipped at the deadline anyway….
A lot of these issues have been here longer than JR and PA and is an ownership issue, but this part made me laugh: « management needs to do a better job of keeping things in-house ». This was such a bizarre own-goal. I’ve never seen a front office so willing to air their locker room’s own dirty laundry.
It can be explained by one word.
Ownership
Hahaha they need to keep it in house and then complain they havent saod anything about a plan. Cant have it both ways. Meh, to stupid agents they are generally scumbags.
Get its a mess and doesnt always make sense but this is just random comments from who know. Put what you want in it.
I think you still have to give it this summer to fully grasp, where and how we look.
You can’t blame management for going for it a couple years ago and getting Lindsholm ( I believe we over paid for this player) and Zadorov. If we had a healthy Demko, we could’ve been looking at a Stanley cup final.
Quinn wanted out, because we couldn’t produce. Tons of injuries, no free agents, and no real prospects to fill the voids. We got stuck in no man’s land after having a well above average year a couple years ago.
So here we are in dead last place, for once! And have a top 3 pick, not mushy middle. Here is hoping that we are dead last again next year and the year after.
3 years from now, I’m hoping that we start to get to mushy middle and in 5 we can look at maybe….. maybe 8th season for playoffs and we got 4 or 5 great prospects coming up.
We’re in dead last place, it will look bad for anyone. What free agents want to come to a last place team in Canada. Cut the noise, welcome dead last for a couple years and watch players grow.