Yeah and what is it if you removed Kane and Talbot.
JTAKER
It’s also lower than half of the playoff teams.
Medievil_Walrus
During a fucking rebuild too.
dacdaddy19
29.67 is embarrassing
SwagNuts
So average?
dylanisbored
were probably on the very low side for median age tho which is a much better metric for this and most things.
Edit: the median is 30 lmao we are old
One_Development314
The best team in the league has the oldest roster… Not sure this matters.
greythedork12
It really doesn’t matter how old the “filler” on the roster is. Appleton, Compher, etc all have legit gripes with their games, but we’re not better or worse than we would be if they were all in their mid20s rather than their 30s.
Seider and Raymond *just* turned 25 and 24, respectively. Kasper just turned 22. Finnie isn’t even 21 yet. Edvinsson turned 23 in February and AlJo is 25.
Larkin hasn’t turned 30 yet and DeBrincat turned 28 this past winter. They’re not getting younger, but they still presumably have several good years left, especially DeBrincat. Kane is the only one whose replacement needs to come asap (Plante? Bear?).
We also still have a stacked farm of young talent. Postava, Cossa, and Augustine are 24, 23, and 21, respectively. Sandin-Pellikka and Anton Johansson are both 21. Mazur is 24, Lombardi (and James?) are 22, Danielson is 21, MBN, Kiiskinen, and Plante are 20, and Bear and Genborg are both 19.
2shack
It’s because the team sucks and the only players we can attract are older players that need a contract. Detroit is no longer a destination team and hasn’t been for a while. There’s not a lot to entice free agents and the assets we’d have to give up in a trade arguably set the team back.
Sativa_Highzerman
Avg age of a team is kinda meaningless stat. Kane is one of the highest producers, Perron joined for a beer only. Chiarot is the only one that hits unprovoked. Hamonic as a 8th Dman played half the season.
Rest of the team is relatively young and bunch of rookies..
Kalavritinos
I re-ran the numbers minus Cam Talbot, Hamonic, Perron, JVR, all players who have likely played their last games as red wings. I also subtracted Soderblom due to the trade, and added Cossa for Talbot.
New number = 27.0
That would put us at 2nd youngest among that list.
Changes that narrative up a bit doesnt it?
ChaldenesTitan
Okay but the only key player over 30 is Kane. Larkin and DeBrincat are 29 and 28. The rest of our core is younger than average. It’s the depth that skews our average age to be higher and those are the mentors for the kids.
TheAnalogKid18
Fuck it, welcome back Chris Chelios.
maxwellbevan
The contracts coming off the book are JVR, Kane, Perron, Hamonic, and Talbot. They’re all over 35. They were never meant to be long term solutions for the future. I wouldn’t lose sleep over it
jackstalke
I really only care about the age of the core, and I consider that to be Raymond and Seider. Those guys are still young.
OldGermanBeer
Jeezus, who built this roster?
Republic-Of-OK
Said another way they are right in the middle of the bell curve. To be honest the only series where age “feels” like a factor is PHI v PIT. Pittsburg looks like they’re ailing out there. Not sure what that might be a combination of- leaving it all out there in the regular season, age, motivation, something else- idk. On the other hand Colorado is playing a smothering, high-cardio game. Haven’t looked like the oldest team energy-wise.
jsquiggles23
Thank God we extended Chiarot.
Glad-Independence-24
Older than half the teams also means younger than half the teams….so what exactly are we supposed to take away from this?
LostWright
Like previously mentioned, the stat is simply a whatever stat. Since they added jvr for like a base salary this year on 1 year deal.
Talbot HARDLY played and is the oldest on the team I think.
Kane is played better than his age expected results.
And perron was a late season addition, to see if it could help the march push (it did not)
I dont know if it lists future contracts age average, but id bet the wings come down a noticeable amount next year.
Ok-Promotion-9726
Remember Kane, JVR and Talbot greatly affect that average. But this team has more to worry about than age.
doubeljack
We had a way younger roster at the start of the season. This post is ragebait
BlackCardRogue
This stat is always misleading. What you have to ask is “what’s the age of the core?”
That gets weird too, though… Detroit has Larkin and DeBrincat to go with the young D.
TAV63
This average age being too old idea really misses having validity when you factor building from the draft and not on the fly. They have lots of placeholders currently and are not near contending. Even good placeholders (not many) like Kane is not likely on the team in a couple years.
Just think of the new adds coming this year and next and they are all close to 20 not 30. Probably 3-4 a year over the next couple so not being unreasonable. Cossa, ASP, Anton, MBN, Plante, Bear, Genborg and others.b it will depend who page out and is not traded, but there will likely be 7-8 new faces. Imagine just in net going from Gibson and Talbot to Cossa and Augustine. Not saying all of them will make it, but enough will. Could be Postava, Pradel, Guimond or whatever but they will be younger. The team will go from past their prime placeholders to maybe too much youth is more the issue. They will need gritty experience more than youth.
So it is a very short sighted view to think they are too old and that is a problem. They are not set to contend seriously for at least a couple years. By the time they are they will not be the oldest team in the playoffs. Almost a certainty. Average age is not an issue. Creating a winning culture for these kids is.
RWHockey13
Sadly, this is where Yzerman is following in the foot steps of Holland. Keep adding Vets.
MidnightNo1766
So…. Average?
Fizz_Boom_99
Detroits 2002 team average age was 30.5. Considered by many to be the best team ever assembled so its quality of the age. Period
Fizz_Boom_99
2 or 3 players around 40 can throw that whole stat outta whack Detroit is a young team with 4 or 5 really old gray beards
levitoepoker
Shocking how many people are saying this isn’t a problem after so many bad bad seasons
It’s a fucking problem! Why the fuck was Chariot extended? Why should we be hopeful to be a contender next season? Yzerman is fucking dumb and way behind what he was doing in TB
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Yeah and what is it if you removed Kane and Talbot.
It’s also lower than half of the playoff teams.
During a fucking rebuild too.
29.67 is embarrassing
So average?
were probably on the very low side for median age tho which is a much better metric for this and most things.
Edit: the median is 30 lmao we are old
The best team in the league has the oldest roster… Not sure this matters.
It really doesn’t matter how old the “filler” on the roster is. Appleton, Compher, etc all have legit gripes with their games, but we’re not better or worse than we would be if they were all in their mid20s rather than their 30s.
Seider and Raymond *just* turned 25 and 24, respectively. Kasper just turned 22. Finnie isn’t even 21 yet. Edvinsson turned 23 in February and AlJo is 25.
Larkin hasn’t turned 30 yet and DeBrincat turned 28 this past winter. They’re not getting younger, but they still presumably have several good years left, especially DeBrincat. Kane is the only one whose replacement needs to come asap (Plante? Bear?).
We also still have a stacked farm of young talent. Postava, Cossa, and Augustine are 24, 23, and 21, respectively. Sandin-Pellikka and Anton Johansson are both 21. Mazur is 24, Lombardi (and James?) are 22, Danielson is 21, MBN, Kiiskinen, and Plante are 20, and Bear and Genborg are both 19.
It’s because the team sucks and the only players we can attract are older players that need a contract. Detroit is no longer a destination team and hasn’t been for a while. There’s not a lot to entice free agents and the assets we’d have to give up in a trade arguably set the team back.
Avg age of a team is kinda meaningless stat. Kane is one of the highest producers, Perron joined for a beer only. Chiarot is the only one that hits unprovoked. Hamonic as a 8th Dman played half the season.
Rest of the team is relatively young and bunch of rookies..
I re-ran the numbers minus Cam Talbot, Hamonic, Perron, JVR, all players who have likely played their last games as red wings. I also subtracted Soderblom due to the trade, and added Cossa for Talbot.
New number = 27.0
That would put us at 2nd youngest among that list.
Changes that narrative up a bit doesnt it?
Okay but the only key player over 30 is Kane. Larkin and DeBrincat are 29 and 28. The rest of our core is younger than average. It’s the depth that skews our average age to be higher and those are the mentors for the kids.
Fuck it, welcome back Chris Chelios.
The contracts coming off the book are JVR, Kane, Perron, Hamonic, and Talbot. They’re all over 35. They were never meant to be long term solutions for the future. I wouldn’t lose sleep over it
I really only care about the age of the core, and I consider that to be Raymond and Seider. Those guys are still young.
Jeezus, who built this roster?
Said another way they are right in the middle of the bell curve. To be honest the only series where age “feels” like a factor is PHI v PIT. Pittsburg looks like they’re ailing out there. Not sure what that might be a combination of- leaving it all out there in the regular season, age, motivation, something else- idk. On the other hand Colorado is playing a smothering, high-cardio game. Haven’t looked like the oldest team energy-wise.
Thank God we extended Chiarot.
Older than half the teams also means younger than half the teams….so what exactly are we supposed to take away from this?
Like previously mentioned, the stat is simply a whatever stat. Since they added jvr for like a base salary this year on 1 year deal.
Talbot HARDLY played and is the oldest on the team I think.
Kane is played better than his age expected results.
And perron was a late season addition, to see if it could help the march push (it did not)
I dont know if it lists future contracts age average, but id bet the wings come down a noticeable amount next year.
Remember Kane, JVR and Talbot greatly affect that average. But this team has more to worry about than age.
We had a way younger roster at the start of the season. This post is ragebait
This stat is always misleading. What you have to ask is “what’s the age of the core?”
That gets weird too, though… Detroit has Larkin and DeBrincat to go with the young D.
This average age being too old idea really misses having validity when you factor building from the draft and not on the fly. They have lots of placeholders currently and are not near contending. Even good placeholders (not many) like Kane is not likely on the team in a couple years.
Just think of the new adds coming this year and next and they are all close to 20 not 30. Probably 3-4 a year over the next couple so not being unreasonable. Cossa, ASP, Anton, MBN, Plante, Bear, Genborg and others.b it will depend who page out and is not traded, but there will likely be 7-8 new faces. Imagine just in net going from Gibson and Talbot to Cossa and Augustine. Not saying all of them will make it, but enough will. Could be Postava, Pradel, Guimond or whatever but they will be younger. The team will go from past their prime placeholders to maybe too much youth is more the issue. They will need gritty experience more than youth.
So it is a very short sighted view to think they are too old and that is a problem. They are not set to contend seriously for at least a couple years. By the time they are they will not be the oldest team in the playoffs. Almost a certainty. Average age is not an issue. Creating a winning culture for these kids is.
Sadly, this is where Yzerman is following in the foot steps of Holland. Keep adding Vets.
So…. Average?
Detroits 2002 team average age was 30.5. Considered by many to be the best team ever assembled so its quality of the age. Period
2 or 3 players around 40 can throw that whole stat outta whack Detroit is a young team with 4 or 5 really old gray beards
Shocking how many people are saying this isn’t a problem after so many bad bad seasons
It’s a fucking problem! Why the fuck was Chariot extended? Why should we be hopeful to be a contender next season? Yzerman is fucking dumb and way behind what he was doing in TB