Tout d’abord, j’ai l’impression que Matthews a abandonné la compétition étant donné qu’il est tombé juste en dessous de la barre des 70 buts – donc je ne l’inclue malheureusement pas. 69 buts, c’est un sacré exploit, mais étant donné la forte concurrence pour le titre de MVP cette année, j’ai l’impression qu’il devait absolument atteindre 70 pour participer à la discussion. Je comprends que McDavid et MacKinnon ont encore un match à jouer ce soir, donc ils pourraient (et vont probablement) ajouter un autre point (ou deux) chacun – mais qu’est-ce que cela va vraiment changer à ce stade ? Quoi qu’il arrive ce soir, cela ne change rien au fait que Kuch compte également 100 passes décisives et qu’il a mené la ligue cette année pour les points (sauf miracle – ni McDavid ni MacKinnon n’atteignent le total de points de Kucherov cette année). Le mois dernier, tout ce que j’ai entendu c’est « si McDavid atteint 100 points, il devrait avoir le Hart »… eh bien… lui et Kuch ont tous deux atteint 100 points et Kucherov a battu McDavid et immédiatement le récit passe à « MacKinnon pour Hart ». Sérieusement, comment pouvez-vous argumenter contre Kucherov pour le titre de MVP de la ligue ? Il semble qu’il y ait beaucoup de gymnastique mentale en cours pour le placer derrière McDavid et MacKinnon. De plus, le fait que Kucherov ait réussi 100 passes décisives en tant qu’ailier est absolument dingue.
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ScrumpyRumpler
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His last name doesn’t start with an M so he’s out
I was Mackinnon over Kucherov for most of the season
I think Kucherov winning the art ross and getting to 100 assists makes him the mvp
He’s not? He’s the reason his team made the playoffs and he just picked up his 100th assist.
His All-Star skills competition participation was pretty shameful.
144 points and is only a +8 ?
Because when its close the voters tend to spread the wealth – i.e. give it to someone who hasn’t got it before or less likely to get it again. Kuch and McD have a hart, so its Mack’s turn. Same reason Matthews got it a couple years ago over McDavid (not saying he didn’t deserve, but I think McDavid was more impressive). Or see Nash over Shaq in bball.
My rationale, Mackinnon was just flat out Dominant at 5on5. He put up 50+ goals and just shy of 90 assists. Was an absolute horse going 200ft every night without sacrificing one end for the sake of the other.
But honestly, no wrong choices here. Two guys are gonna get fucked over no matter what because there’s only one winner. Kinda fucking wild that we got to witness this from these guys.
I think you can make a case for all three plus Sid.
He’s Russian and a pos, but just by the stats, he deserves a spot.
Not a pos because he is russian, btw.
MacK got 50 goals too. It’s going to be a tough call this year.
Honestly, 69 goals is better than 70.
Because he is a plus 8 and the empty net king
Maybe because he has so many points and is only a plus 8. He would probably learn to play D too.
I thought the Art Ross, not the Hart, was given to the player with the highest points total? Why are you talking as if point total is the only thing that makes an MVP?
I think he wins it.
Bring a part of 50% of his team’s goals is absurd
I would say that based on the common narrative since they won the cup that MacKinnon is the one who has set the high standard that is shaping the team.
Also he hasn’t won one yet and this one is probably a reward for past overall body of work acknowledging that as long as McDavid is around and is unlikely to have another off year this is probably his best chance.
If Kucherov had not won one already this year would have been a doozy for voting.
MacKinnon may be having the most sensational year.
And in a tight race, likeability matters. Kucherov is a mercurial dick, as evidenced by…<gestures broadly>… and specifically the non-performance in the All Star Game skills competition. Shouldn’t matter, but it does and sticks in people’s memory as being disrespectful to the game.
He should win it, on performance, without him there’s no way the Lightning are even in the playoffs at all. And he probably never will again given his career’s concurrency with McDavid and MacKinnon, so maybe this is the year for him. But – this vote is about more than just the numbers.
Petition for Matthews to change his number to 69 until he surpasses 70 goals in a season.
+8/+35/+34…… they are with in 12 points of each other…… who was on the ice for more goals against !?
Because he’s only a +8 and two players have 100 assists.
69 vs 70 lol you’re acting like it’s 50vs70.
It’s going to MacKinnon cause he’s the only one of the three who doesn’t have a hart. Voters like having someone new in a race as close as this.
He’s +8, whereas the others are +34 and +35. That’s quite a large gap.
If you remove empty net goals from the tallies shown. The points are much closer. Remove 7 goals from Kuch (in 5 extra games) and 1 goal from McDavid. I don’t have the data for assists tallied on empty net goals.
Defensive liability.
McDavid also has played 5 less games and started the season injured with less then a PPG in the first 14. It’s either Kuch or Mac this year though.
If only there was an award for most points in the league, instead of trying to equate that as Most Valuable…
I’m not discounting Kucherov’s performance, but it needs to be stressed that Nathan MacKinnon pretty much dragged this Avs team to 3rd in the Central. And likely would’ve won the Central had the starting goalie not disappeared. I know there are big names on this team, but each of those guys have been extremely ordinary at times throughout the season. This isn’t the same wagon we had a few years ago. We’re a wild card team at best without Nate.
Also, Nate deserves his share of the credit when it comes to the Jonathan Drouin reclamation project. A definitive example of a player who comes to Colorado, revitalizes his career by playing alongside Nathan MacKinnon, and has earned his spot on that top line. You don’t have to search far and wide to see how many people didn’t believe this was a possibility at the beginning of the season.
I’m sure each McDavid and Matthews supporters can come up with a bio that’s similarly passionate and convincing. All I can say is that having watched each and every single Avs game this year, Nate deserves his flowers this time around. The team has been super pedestrian without him. He definitely deserves to be apart of the conversation at the very least.
The +-?
Because the Hart and Ted Lindsay aren’t the Art Ross.
In my eye there are 7 great narratives for the Hart this year. Kucherov, McDavid, MacKinnon, Matthews, Hellebuyck, Panarin and Quinn Hughes. The PHWA doesn’t vote for defencemen, so scratch Hughes off the list.
But why is Kucherov a clear favorite for what he’s done in Tampa vs for example what Hellebuyck has done this year in Winnipeg. Winnipeg is a worse team on paper, and they had a much stronger season. Hellebuyck has carried them every bit as much as Kucherov has, and Winnpeg had a much stronger season.
I’ll break it down. 50% of his points came on the PP he’s not very good defensively and plays the wing a much easier position.
5 v 5 vs PP points. I think that’s a heavy factor.
+8?