Que pourrait obtenir Wild pour Gustavsson ? Vont-ils échanger Rossi ? Mailbag, partie 1 — échanges, agence libre et contrats
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blow_zephyr
@Wild du Minnesota
Que pourrait obtenir Wild pour Gustavsson ? Vont-ils échanger Rossi ? Mailbag, partie 1 — échanges, agence libre et contrats
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blow_zephyr
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Trading Rossi seems so risky to me.
This is bleak. BG apparently wants to get bigger but older/slower/less skilled.
Trade Rossi, sign Perron and extend Middleton would do exactly that.
Trading Rossi doesn’t make sense to me. Hell, trading him for Cutter Gauthier would’ve been brutal IMO.
This is baffling:
> If the Wild could trade Rossi for the same level of high-end prospect, but one who’s bigger and faster, there’s a real chance they’d pull the trigger.
So, a similar prospect that is bigger and faster? Who wouldn’t make that kind of trade? Why would another team make that trade?
I don’t know too many GMs out there thinking “boy, we need to get smaller and slower”.
Rossi just came off a stellar rookie season, there’s no reason to trade him thinking “this is his peak value” when we don’t even know if he’s hit peak PERFORMANCE yet. Will he be a 1C? Probably not. Will he be a potentially consistent or even dominant scorer? Yeah, probably if this season was any indication. Our issue was scoring, and trading a dude that was contending with the most likely unanimous Calder winner in goals is absolutely fucking insane. This team needs to stop looking for stats and look for complete players. We don’t need “a big guy” or “a fast guy” or “a skilled guy”, we need a “complete guy”, someone that does a little bit of everything. Weve done this shit where we need to get “bigger” or “faster”, so instead of finding the BEST player, we find the one that fits that need, and it simply hasn’t and probably never will work. A fast guy that can’t score and can’t hit/back check is useless, just like a big guy who can’t skate and can’t generate offense is useless.
The fact that they’re even considering this is so telling that Billy G really has no idea how to build a modern NHL team.
The game is getting faster and flashier. The days of linebackers on ice are over.
The Wild are going to get torched if the front office doesn’t understand this.
I do not like this but looking 1 – 2 years out there might be a log jam. We will be adding Yurov and Height. So, yes to trading him with an awesome return.
I think the Wild are tangling him and looking for a king’s ransom in return. Doubtful he gets moved.
But everyone is tradeable.
Rossi and our 1st for the first overall? yes. I like Gus and our first better in this trade. I have Rossi as my flair because of his journey, Same for anyone who went through myocarditis like Patrick Kane.
The only thing I can think of is that a) Yurov’s camp is spooked that Rossi will be competition for minutes and b) BG has gotten enough inquiry about Rossi’s availability that he’s willing to string things along and see if a bidding war develops this summer. Training camp isn’t until September, so there are a good four months here to let things percolate. As a fringe-top-six center, Rossi is *hugely* valuable on ELC money with another couple years before arbitration. That’s a get-out-of-jail-free card as a GM or cap doctor. It just so happens the Wild are in the enviable position of having Rossi plus a potential megastar at the same position, waiting in the wings.
I think the Avs would trade their next 3 draft picks for him right now if they could lol.
Ngl if they trade Rossi it will be the first time I genuinely lose faith in the wild but they know more than me so I just have to roll with it and hope the best but man I was/am invested in Rossi.
Before losing our collective minds about a Rossi trade, lets see what the true trade compensation would be if anything does coalesce.
**I know I’ll get roasted**: I’m in the « don’t trade Rossi » camp, but there are maybe 3 players on the roster that are truly untradeable and Rossi shouldn’t be considered one of them. I’m not sure his ceiling is exponentially higher than what he did this year. He’s maybe a 25 goal, 50-55 point player which is awesome and we’d gladly take that each year, but I don’t see him as ever being a true 1C and his height will always be a little limiting, especially in the playoffs when he might get outmatched, despite being tough as nails for his size/weight (I know the examples other productive « short » forwards, no need to name them).
He does a lot of other things you’d like for a middle 6 centre, but something about him feels very 2014-era Wild. Safe, hard-working, but has a limit that’s at-or-before the horizon. Maybe the team wants to sell high on a player they see plateauing close to what he is now? Maybe there’s someone out there with a greater risk/reward quotient? Maybe they privately have high confidence in some of the forward prospects that can play centre/wing?
Again, I’d be really nervous to bail on him at this point and I think he could be a very solid roster mainstay for years and years–just trying to talk-through why he might be floated in trade discussions. He’s worked his tail off to improve and some of his intangibles are very necessary to have on successful teams. I hope he stays but I will keep an open mind if he doesn’t.
This, to me, oozes big Forsberg from Philly vibes
My thoughts on Rossi.
The front office wants this story to get out. I think they are trying to create a bidding war and discover what Rossi’s price is if they were to sell high.
(Exaggeration) If they get a player, a first, and a second then why not?
Speaking for myself, I am not worried.
This, to me, oozes big Forsberg from Philly vibes
I get that Rossi is not in the untouchable camp for our roster, which is realistic and fine to say, but actively shopping a player because he is an inch short compared to players like Brayden Point or Seth Jarvis is using the same thinking that thought Charlie Strammel was a better pick than Gabe Perreault.
So Guerin wants to sign 36 yo Perron, extand Middleton and trad Rossi. If it’s even close to true, BG shouldn’t have a job in any front Office in the league
Marty %*!& Necas
I dont know how many times I have to say his name but the answer to riddle of « I dont get it who’s the young skilled forward that’s available that it makes sense to trade Rossi for? » is Marty goddamn Necas.
I dont know how you guys dont see this.
While I don’t think Rossi is good enough to be considered « un-tradeable » like Kaprizov or Faber, I just don’t see what we could get in return for him that wouldn’t be, at best, a lateral move.
I do not want to trade him for a veteran forward. Like if the trade is Rossi for Nick Schmaltz or something, I hate that move. Schmaltz is a good player but he’s also older and more expensive (currently).
If the move would be like Rossi and our 1st for someone like Logan Cooley then sure, I’m ok with that move, but why would Utah do that?
Basically I’m not gonna be in the camp that says « BG deserves to be fired for even thinking about moving Rossi » but I just don’t see logically how we improve the team by trading him.
gus and rossi are about as good as we can hope for in their categories. any trade would come at a loss that we can’t afford if we wanna have a real chance in 25-26