Well Jim Nill was a major part of our scouting network under Holland as well as Hakan Andersson who is still with Detroit. I’m not sure if Biz’s story is 100% accurate but Nill was a piece of the success in detroits scouting and now he’s copied that success in Dallas
unequalsarcasm
Not going to watch a 2hr video but most of what Biz says is bullshit. He openly admits to farming engagement and making shit up all the time. Plus he seems to think Cale is better than the perfect human so take that for what it is.
OkProfessional6077
He took Joe McDonnell with him who was our Director of Amateur scouting. Not sure all of whom McDonnell took with him but that is at least one big piece from our scouting department.
big_phat_gator
Kinda unpopular opinion but i hate when people bring up how good our drafting is and then they mention Zetterberg/Datsyuk, like that was almost 30 years ago now and we have not hit a single home run in the late rounds or any round really since. Its like when people tell us to shut up about missing the playoffs since we had that streak going.
gelinas18
I’ve always been under the impression that Nill is the unsung hero to the success the Wings had. The proof is all there. Look at what he’s done with Dallas and look at Holland’s track record since he left. It’s terrible. Holland hasn’t done a good job in Edmonton, either.
SauceHankRedemption
Sounds like Biz is suggesting Jim Nill and others left due to a dispute regarding compensation. I guess I can’t say that’s 100% not true, but to my understanding, Jim Nill left because he wanted to pursue the role of GM, and he wasn’t gonna get that in Detroit because Ken Holland was GM, and most people seemed confident Yzerman would take over after Holland. So Nill had to seek a GM role elsewhere. He was offered the job in Dallas, and the scouting staff that worked under him and were loyal to him, left with him.
It has never been mentioned in the past that their moves were driven by compensation. And I’m pretty sure Nill was gonna leave regardless of what Detroit offered him short of the GM role.
Substantial_Point_20
From what I remember guys left because holland was an ass and didn’t listen to them. Stuck in his ways bs
TheAnalogKid18
Ken Holland absolutely destroyed this organization and doesn’t deserve any of the credit he gets. He’s a lesser version of Julien Brisbois, taking over when you’re at the top and you don’t have to really use any skill to lure in top talent. Kenny started his GM career on 3rd base and thought he hit a triple.
nikilidstrom
We talked about this the other day in the General Discussion post. Jim Nill was a huge part of our drafting success, and when he left, he also took our director of amateur scouting with him. Soon after, another one of our scouts, Mark Leach, left Detroit to join Nill in Dallas as well. That’s a huge hit to take in one season, but then you add in the hiring of Tyler Wright, maybe the worst choice for scouting director possible.
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Well Jim Nill was a major part of our scouting network under Holland as well as Hakan Andersson who is still with Detroit. I’m not sure if Biz’s story is 100% accurate but Nill was a piece of the success in detroits scouting and now he’s copied that success in Dallas
Not going to watch a 2hr video but most of what Biz says is bullshit. He openly admits to farming engagement and making shit up all the time. Plus he seems to think Cale is better than the perfect human so take that for what it is.
He took Joe McDonnell with him who was our Director of Amateur scouting. Not sure all of whom McDonnell took with him but that is at least one big piece from our scouting department.
Kinda unpopular opinion but i hate when people bring up how good our drafting is and then they mention Zetterberg/Datsyuk, like that was almost 30 years ago now and we have not hit a single home run in the late rounds or any round really since. Its like when people tell us to shut up about missing the playoffs since we had that streak going.
I’ve always been under the impression that Nill is the unsung hero to the success the Wings had. The proof is all there. Look at what he’s done with Dallas and look at Holland’s track record since he left. It’s terrible. Holland hasn’t done a good job in Edmonton, either.
Sounds like Biz is suggesting Jim Nill and others left due to a dispute regarding compensation. I guess I can’t say that’s 100% not true, but to my understanding, Jim Nill left because he wanted to pursue the role of GM, and he wasn’t gonna get that in Detroit because Ken Holland was GM, and most people seemed confident Yzerman would take over after Holland. So Nill had to seek a GM role elsewhere. He was offered the job in Dallas, and the scouting staff that worked under him and were loyal to him, left with him.
It has never been mentioned in the past that their moves were driven by compensation. And I’m pretty sure Nill was gonna leave regardless of what Detroit offered him short of the GM role.
From what I remember guys left because holland was an ass and didn’t listen to them. Stuck in his ways bs
Ken Holland absolutely destroyed this organization and doesn’t deserve any of the credit he gets. He’s a lesser version of Julien Brisbois, taking over when you’re at the top and you don’t have to really use any skill to lure in top talent. Kenny started his GM career on 3rd base and thought he hit a triple.
We talked about this the other day in the General Discussion post. Jim Nill was a huge part of our drafting success, and when he left, he also took our director of amateur scouting with him. Soon after, another one of our scouts, Mark Leach, left Detroit to join Nill in Dallas as well. That’s a huge hit to take in one season, but then you add in the hiring of Tyler Wright, maybe the worst choice for scouting director possible.