Personnellement, je pense qu’un trophée Vézina, trois coupes, cinq apparitions en SCF, un nombre incroyable de victoires et une saison avec 10 buts sur balles, c’est mieux que bien. Êtes-vous d’accord ou pas ?
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NextTrillion
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MAF is great enough to expertly recover from the terrible positions he often puts himself in.
He’s great.
Good enough to make the Olympics roster even though he did not play.
He played on a good team his entire career which he deserves his share of the credit for but also inflates the stats. Two of the Cups he won he was the backup after losing his job. Vegas was also pretty quick to move on and after seeing him play since it’s hard to argue they were wrong to let him go.
You aren’t great if you have consistently been inconsistent over the course of a 21 year career. He’s been up and down since junior. Great at times, a complete mess at others.
I agree with the guy who told you he’s good but not great.
Ooo… It’s the save that got Babcock fired!
He’s basically Chris Osgood with more games played.
F that guy!!!
I love Flower…
Currently? That’s an absolutely correct description. In terms of record? He’s one of the most successful goalies in NHL history, even if he started to fall off after 2016. He deserves to be mentioned alongside goalies like Roy, Brodeur, and Belfour.
Do you mean future hall of famer?
Anyone with 500 wins is great. There is only 3 goalies. He has no idea what he talking about. MAF has 1) cups 2) wins 3) longevity
Definitely a first ballot HHOF. I’m pretty sure he’s in a special club outside of hockey that will guarantee it.
They can eat my balls. Flower is a first ballot HOFer!
First ballot Hall Of Famer
I honestly didn’t think we’d get another Osgood situation out of Marc Andre Fleury’s career
MAF is one of the *only* goalies to be drafted 1st overall for a reason.
Some of those early Penguins teams he was on, Pre-Crosby years, were atrociously bad. Then he switched from those obnoxious yellow pads and everything turned around
Is it possible they meant in terms of current form? Whole career is HOF level, but in 2024 I’d say he’s just outside the top 10
MAF was great
I’m bias but goat tendy is a hard argument between Roy and Brodeur. Playoff wins vs regular season wins. Both had great teams in front of them. I say 1A/1B but the big question is what if Hasek had those teams in front of him instead of buffalo. Flower is immaculate. Can’t skip that the top tendies of all time are from Quebec. Fleury is still my favourite even if Roy was my idiol. Flowers personality and goodwill towards everyone wins every time.
He’s a first ballot hall of famer when he retires. It’s not called « The Hall of Good but not great »
I don’t think he was ever great in a given season, but he was so consistently good (and also in a good situation being in Pit then Vegas) to rack up awards and stats.
I don’t think he was ever a top 3 goalie in any season, including the vezina season. But he has racked up so much that he competes well with the all time greats.
Hes great when when he isn’t unnecessarily handling the puck lol. I’ve loved him on the wild. Wish he had more years in the tank.
I’m a Caps fan. I hate that guy because he is great.
Don’t forget he was also a 1st overall pick. As a goalie.
I think he’s up there with some of the best.
He was never considered great until he went to Vegas.
he’s great but hovg imo, he’ll be a first ballot hhof though. i personally despise having him on our team and wish we’d never have traded for him.
Flower is a legend
MAF has both the athleticism, and the personality to be the great goaltender he is, as well a teammate, and mentor. MAF is a GREAT! One of the best.
Smack that person upside the head…please.
Detroit fans consider him great
MAF got better at some point in his career too, later than most guys still improve
Probably from someone who has never had him in a team. He will go down as one of the best goalies in history. He has such a personality and is so funny. I’ve never heard a player say anything bad about him in or off the ice. You have to respect him.
500 wins is all that need be said
Vegas fans still have MAF shrines in our homes to honor the golden god
They are on drugs cause he’s one of the best goailes of all time
I was a Fleury hater because I was a bitter Capitals fan. Then he went to Vegas and I went “oh just kidding he’s actually incredible.” He’s gotta be first ballot HOF right?
« Someone » should pick another sport to watch! Because he is clueless on this one!
He’s also a first overall pick and second in all-time goalie wins behind Brodeur. Fleury is one of the best goalies of all-time.
He did end up getting a bit overrated. He was the backup in the finals for 2 cups. He was amazing in 08 but pretty mediocre in the finals until the save in 09. A ton of mediocre years until his vezna on a team with an incredible defensive roster. People talk about him like his whole career was competing for Veznas like that stint in Vegas. I’d still say he’s had a great career over a good one though.
>Someone told me MAF “is good but not great.”
MAF laughs in 3 Stanley Cups and Vezina Trophy.
I think anyone who thinks MAF isn’t a great goalie doesn’t know much about goaltending. I played goalie for 10ish years until injury forced me to stop but when you really break down playing the way he does, most goalies would not ever be able to play to win 3 cups and a Vezina. They would get scored on way too much to even be drafted, much less first overall.
I am biased because I loved MAF, though.
He’s great until he’s not 🙁 it’s frustrating
They were wrong