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@Coyotes de l'Arizona
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Crybaby mayor
The Mayor is already receiving the benifit of having the Coyotes. The Coyotes have their training headquarters and practice ice surface there.
The Coyotes are 100% relocating.
– The Arizona Coyotes have lost $115.2 million USD between 2013 and 2022 (according to Forbes Business of Hockey). That is more than any other team in the NHL over that same period. Fact.
– In the past 28 years the Arizona Coyotes are at a NET LOSS. Fact.
– The Coyotes can't stay at the Footprint center because it converted to basketball exclusively. Fact.
– The Arizona Coyotes were also sued by the city of Phoenix twice for interfering with zoning laws in accordance with planned flight paths. Facts.
– The team was sued by city of Glendale for not paying taxes – On December 3 2021, the Arizona Department of Revenue slapped the Arizona Coyotes with a tax lien. Fact.
– The Coyotes were rejected by the cities of Scottsdale (Los Arcos mall site in 1995-1996)
– the Coyotes were rejected by the city of Tempe (May 16 2023). Fact.
Coyotes still have to find a location to build an area. And purchase the land… (they are talking about a parcel of land in Scottsdale, but nothing has happened as of March 13 2024 – and that site is in a BAD location apparently very little hockey fans/money in that area.
My understanding (and this was told to me by Coyotes fans) ONLY the east valley of Phoenix has a lot of hockey fans.
This proposed site (Loop 101 West of Scottsdale Road) is FAR, FAR NORTHEAST…not even close to where people are. It is not even in the East Valley anymore, it is in the North, it is not in a highly populated area. And those were some of the main issues with drawing fans to Glendale (in the West Valley…a lack of fans).
Furthermore, "the 100 acre plot of land currently has no road access to the site…they have not spoken about how they will secure the water rights for the current and future needs of a project of this size"…
To build a brand new arena from scratch, takes on average 3 years of construction (assuming there are NO delays).
It sounds like there has to be a PUBLIC AUCTION FOR THE LAND FOR A MINIMUM OF 10 WEEKS to allow other people a chance to purchase the land. And then the ARENA PLANS have to be approved by the government, they don't just let you build whatever you want.
The auction will START on March 14th 2024….the land must be put up for auction for minimum of 10 weeks…May 23 2024 soonest without delays (HOWEVER they actually announced this week the auction will probably end in June 2024).
The realistic soonest possible date for a new arena construction. would be June 2027. (2027-2028 NHL season – where will the Coyotes play until then? They can't play at Mullet until then.)
Therefore…The Arizona Coyotes are 100% relocating.
Why spend $500 million on another arena, which may or may not work out? That would be crazy. To build this team a new arena would be insane. to pump $500 million into an arena, while an arena in Glendale EXISTS and the team lost $115.2 million in the past ten years – you will NEVER RECOUP YOUR LOSSES IN ARIZONA.
List of NHL sized arenas in cities without NHL teams:
– Videotron Centre – Quebec City, Quebec
– MODA Center – Portland, Oregon
– Fiserv Forum – Milwaukee, Wisconsin
– Delta Center – Salt Lake City, Utah
– Toyota Center – Houston, Texas
– FirstOntario Centre – Hamilton, Ontario (currently renovating)
– Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse – Cleveland, Ohio
– T-Mobile Center (Sprint Center) – Kansas City, Missouri
Every single one of those cities are more deserving of an NHL city than Phoenix (or Atlanta for that matter).
Some of these locations would ACTUALLY generate revenue for the NHL unlike the Arizona Coyotes.
Where would they go? Probably California or a second Vegas team lol.
The mayor wants to buy that land, so he and his company David Ortega Architect & Associates, Inc would build apartments, storage units, warehouses and or shopping centers. He doesn't care anything else except for the money .
Coyotes deserve a better situation to succeed in. Hello Salt Lake
Dude sounds like the type of guy who goes around reporting violations in his HOA.
That arena would bring in a ton of new jobs and revenue for the state. Not like they’ve got any better plans for the land.
As someone who is still paying taxes on two stadia built 30 and 20 years ago, respectively, I completely understand the reluctance of municipalities to fund unnecessary venues. Fenway Park, Wrigley Field, Dodger Stadium, Arrowhead Stadium, the Superdome, Angels Stadium, Kaufman Stadium, and Madison Square Garden are perfectly serviceable. If the owners want new venues every 15-20 years, let them pay for it.
Bring that team back to Canada 🇨🇦 make the Nordiques great again
The Major is right: struggling tax players should NOT pay for billionaires teams stadiums !!!
I see NHL stock rising quick as NFL, NBA and MLB all start to have stagnant fan base. I personally watched maybe playoffs 4 years ago but last 3 years found myself watching hockey way more and wondering why I watched Football. Not that it’s a bad sport but once you understand hockey it becomes a fantastic sport. Hope this isn’t a mistake for Arizona but sure feels like it.
Good. Tax payers should NOT foot the bill for billionaires because they're too damn cheap to put up their own money
Coyotes have like 2 fans in their building and they’re gonna build a half a billion dollar arena and infrastructure.. paid for by the tax payers.. just move to like Milwaukee or Indianapolis and repurpose the bucks or pacers arenas for hockey and basketball.. there ya go, you create jobs, to have a court and rink conversion team, and ur not wasting tax payer dollars.. and don’t give me the bs of the fan in Arizona; no one goes to the games except the playoffs, when they make it. Just end the hockey in the desert experiment
The Coyotes are a crap team and organization. Fold the team or move to Canada.
David Ortega's LEGACY: He ran hockey out of Arizona!
Salt Lake Late Saints are on the way 🎉
“Hockey belongs in the desert, but not in my backyard!” 🙄🖕🏻
These owners get taxpayer's to foot the bill and they are billionaires. No reason league's and owners can't build their own stadiums with their money.
The State built 2 arenas for the Coyotes, for free and they still didn't survive. Glendale even gave 30 to 50 million a year to subsidize the team…they put a freeeze on hiring firefighters and police to afford that funding.
It worked out . Arizona no longer has Hockey.