Un regard sur la terrible mauvaise gestion des Penguins de Pittsburgh par Kyle Dubas. Cela et bien plus encore dans la vidéo Hockey d’aujourd’hui ! Dailyfaceoff : https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/tristan-jarry-debacle-kyle-dubas-disastrous-timeline-pittsburgh-penguins-gm
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Not intending to imply that Dubas is solely responsible for the penguins, just highlighting some of his moves. Feedback noted re prior management.
It’s amazing how Toronto media pins all the blame of Toronto’s issues on Dubas when Brendan Shanahan was/is in charge. Anything that Dubas did had to be approved by Shanahan so if Dubas did such a poor job, why did Shanahan approve what he was doing?
That said, Dubas did make two humongous blunders upon entering the Pittsburgh market. The signing of Jarry and the trade for Karlsson.
All of Dubas moves were high risk high reward, we (as pens fans) were hoping at least ONE or them would pan out but none are.
Eh, didn't agree with this one.
We really dont. Dubas was hired for the penguins future without Crosby.
Fan of the content, but this one is a huge miss. Dubas is not perfect, but he inherited an absolute massive pile of shit from Hextall and friends.
When Dubas got the pens job, he was told by their old stars that they want a team to compete for the cup. You cannot blame Dubas for trying to make that happen. They tried, it failed. But they are still in a good position if they want a true rebuild. Crosby, Letang, Malkin, Karlsson, etc.. can bring back a lot of prospects and picks.
Guentzel trade also included Vasily Ponomarev and Ville Koivunen, and the rights to forward Cruz Lucius.
Karlsson wasn’t a signing. He was a trade.
The reason philly got a first for walker was largely due to them taking on Ryan Johansson's contract
Every big swing Dubas took was a disaster. EK, Graves, Jarry. The 4th line is an embarrassment. I feel like Kyle's glasses make him look smarter than he is.
I’m sorry, Dubas is not the problem. It’s been ownership, coaching, age, and the disaster we’ve been recovering from that was Ron Hextall and the end stage of Jim Rutherford. You got the Guentzel deal wrong too btw, it was Jake for Bunting, Cruz Lucius, Ponomarev, Ville Koivinen, and the 2nd that became Brunicke who looks like he could make the team next year along with the 5th. It was supposed to be a 1st had the Canes made the Cul final. He went for quantity that could help and not solely a first round pick. Also The EK deal, despite the efforts of Karlsson, was a smart move because we dumped a lot of bad contracts. Only thing I would regret trading would be the 1st. And Jake forced that trade, he turned down four different contracts forcing the trade to happen. He’s fixed out prospect pool, started acquiring picks when we used to trade them all away, and he’s wanting to bring in young guys like Tomasino to help move forward with making the team younger. Mike Sullivan is key problem too that everyone seems to have forgotten. He doesn’t fit the Pens anymore but ownership loves him so Dubas can’t get rid of him. Has it been perfect, no, especially with the Graves and Jarry contracts. But again look at the goaltenders available that offseason. We were pretty limited.
The Karlsson trade was a great move, they moved on from some players that were negatively impacting the team, I think if they could've gotten SJ to retain more of his cap hit then it wouldn't be seen as poorly. But the penguins did need some offensive help from defenseman seeing as other than Letang, the next best was putting up ~28 points which hurts more when the bottom 6 is absent.
I like your opinion but let Dubas cook
In junior he just made trades non stop to mask his mistakes. Easy to do with teenagers but not so much in pro hockey. He was always terrible.
I get how fans have high expectations for a Stanley Cup, like when Dubas was in Toronto, but the chance of winning a Cup are really small: 1/32. Make the playoffs, 1/16. Terrible odds when parity is so high.
as a Leaf fan who has tracked every single Dubas move since 2018, I'll tell you this.
1. he inherited a strong team from Lou and took them exactly nowhere and left them with nothing in the farm.
(anyone from pitts going to debate me on this? i'll wipe the floor with you)
2. he took over the pens who were 1 point out of the playoffs, weakened their defence, chucked the gloalie in the AHL, signed a bunch of flops and now you ship the most goals in the league.
Don't sit there and blame Hextall.
i'll debate you on this too.
Ek
grysleck
graves
smith
horrible moves.
hows the battle with the NHL going?
This is such a shitty take lmfao, leave to a Rangers fans to dump on their more successful rival. Hextall tanked the team, Dubas has done well all things considered. He wasn't allowed to rebuild as per ownership. Yes, the Jarry and Graves contracts were bad and Karlsson hasn't worked out – but the Penguins have already bolstered their prospect pool significantly after just one season under Dubas and they have more draft capital now than they've had in years and they still haven't sold off yet. Meanwhile what have the Rangers done other than come up short every year?
This is the kind of team Sullivan wants. Overpaid grinders who can't score. If you were an FA, would YOU want to sign there?
LoL I usually enjoy your videos, but you're a bit of a donkey if you think Pittsburgh "lost" the Guentzel trade. Love Jake, but his departure has allowed Rust and Rakell to assume bigger roles (basically replacing Guentzel's production and then some), and Bunting has been exactly the kind of gritty player the Pens have missed ever since the loss of Hornqvist. The other players acquired in that deal (Ponomarev – 22, Koivunen – 21, and Lucius – 20) are young and talented, and at least 2 of the 3 will likely become regular NHLers, and the draft pick was used to select Harrison Brunicke, who is probably going to be on Pittsburgh's top D pair in the future. Carolina got a short runway with Guentzel before he departed for Tampa, and Ty Smith, who has played all of 8 games this season. The Penguins effectively restocked their prospect cupboard with this one deal, and didn't lose any production. That's a win as far as I'm concerned.
Dubs is…. not that bright when it comes to being a GM. I GIVE HIM THE CAP ISSUE. Get rid of it. You can't make money by winning? Sorry for your luck.
If a player is over 31 DO NOT SIGN THEM except for at the trade deadline like FL with Tarasenko.
we need to talk about Shanahan
What's crazy is how many morons don't agree with your take, that is the correct one. Dubas couldn't properly manager a Dairy Queen.