Combien de temps avant que les Bruins ne reviennent à des prétendants en séries éliminatoires? | Le pod à skate, Ep. 417

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   @ethanreed5541 1 an ago

   If the Bruins win the draft lottery would you knock on Utah’s door for Clayton Keller?

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   @johnwillimott8122 1 an ago

   Can you say, TANKING???

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   @user-mf4pl8tl9z 1 an ago

   Respectfully disagree about Marner – he’s a ghost in the playoffs and worry that his points come from playing with Mathews and Nylander. Marner isn’t an elite goal scorer and gets his points from assists
   to guys like Mathews who’s an elite 1C. Toronto is known for failing time and time again in the playoffs from a top heavy core 4 forwards.

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   @robertforte6697 1 an ago

   It’s weird that anyone who actually understands hockey, let alone covers it for a living in some way, can’t put together why the Boston Bruins feel as though their better prospects are much better off staying in Providence for the remainder of the year versus being up in Boston with the big club

   But seeing as how that seems to be the case here….

   Players like Fraser Minten and Matt Poitras specifically, who are 100% future NHLers, can either play in the AHL in Top 6 roles, in every situation, in all critical moments, be looked to not just as scorers but as leaders and play in all situations where the AHL team is fighting for playoff position and will be in a heated playoff round soon enough….

   OR

   Those same guys could play in Boston, play limited, bottom six minutes, rarely play special teams or play in critical situations, not be looked as scorers or leaders, play for a lame duck coaching staff that has checked out and won’t be back in Boston next year and play on an NHL team that will have a crap ton of roster overhaul next season, that has a terrible, losers vibe, that’s miserable right now and where the players have all checked out and are just playing out the string as well

   How anyone would think that the Boston scenario would be better for the Bruins higher end prospects versus staying Providence in the AHL where there are far more positives for them to achieve and work with, I have no idea

   Georgii Merkulov is not even a NHL player. He’s proven that as without NHL size and speed and being literally average or below average everywhere else but maybe playmaking, his chances of having an actual NHL career are limited at best

   As for Fabian Lysell, he’s 6th in scoring behind stiffs like Tufte and Viel and he’s 7th in goals behind Hall of Famer Max Jones this season. Not exactly inspiring

   What other prospects do Bruins fans want to see?

   Outside of Minten & Poitras there’s not another guy on their team in PVD at forward that looks like they’ll be a full time player in the NHL next year and that includes Merkulov (who might not even be in the organization in few months) and Lysell, who has largely underwhelmed since being drafted

   Minten might have scored a hat trick in PVD but he's never been projected as a sure fire Top 6 guy and high end goal scorer in the NHL. Instead, he's been largely called a "middle six" player that will play a good 200 foot game in the NHL and likely can provide some decent secondary scoring.

   And homers, Middle Six means a low end 2nd line player or a higher end 3rd line player. Both Minten and Poitras right now project as middle six guys, which is fine, but neither is projected and has never been projected as 1st line, high goal scoring, Top 6, dynamic forwards in the NHL. No one has ever written that about Minten or Poitras and they never weill

   The rest of the better PVD forwards are Duran, Kuntar, Farinacci and Harrison ( the only other possible NHL guys in their crap farm system playing in PVD at forward right now)….

   And not one of those guys projects as a scorer in the NHL. Instead, all are Don Sweeney specials, low event, bottom 6, two way grinders.

   We need to see more of those kind of guys in Boston this year? Really? And if your answer is "yes", my question in return would be, “what the hell for?”

   In goal, Michael Dipietro is 25 and a pending UFA. Both Swayman and Korpisalo have long term deals and in Korp’s instance he has an NMC. Why on earth would Dipietro re-sign in Boston this summer?

   He won’t and the Bruins need him for this year’s AHL playoff run. There is no reason to recall Michael Dipietro this season, which is why he likely won't be recalled.

   Also, a note on DiPietro, he is small for a goalie and at the NHL level those holes will get exposed far more than they do in the AHL. it’d a big reason he’s been in the AHL his entire pro hockey career

   As for Brandon Bussi, he’s almost aged out as a prospect at 26 and I’m sorry Bruins homers, he’s not a future NHLer. He’s an AHL tweener for life, so why bring him up again?

   Worse yet the only other kind of real NHL prospect they have in goal is Philip Svedeback at Providence College, who is average at best in the NCAA and doesn’t even really project as a backup in the NHL

   So this idea they’ll move Korpisalo, I just don’t see it. In fact if anything, the Bruins will be looking to bring in goaltenders into their system whether it’s via the draft, college UFAs or as UFAs

   At defense in terms of prospects the only real defenders that may play in the NHL one day that play in Providence today are all 5th to 7th round long shots in Frederic Brunet, Jackson Edward and the recently acquired Max Wanner

   Not one of those guys is ready for full time NHL duty and all would be better served staying in PVD right now

   After those three forget it because Michael Callahan, Ryan, Mast, Chris Ortiz or Bill Sweezy aren't real NHL players and Mason Millman and Daniil Misyul also only project as AHL tweeners / #7-#8 guys at their NHL ceilings

   So why bring any those guys up right now again to Boston?

   Also, keep this in mind. Don Sweeney has made 37, 3rd-7th round draft picks at defense or forward in 10 years as GM

   The NHL games played at defense from rounds 3-7 that Don Sweeney has drafted? NO ONE, not a single guy

   The NHL games played leader at forward from rounds 3-7 that Don Sweeney has drafted in 10 years? Three guys, all 4th line throwaways in Jacob Lauko (124 NHL games), Oscar Steen (60) and Jonna Koppanen (5)

   So any of these 3rd-7th round forwards or D-men in Providence…

   I wouldn’t hold out too much hope for any of them not just based on historic draft metrics from those rounds which say few will make it but Don Sweeney's own miserable hit rate in those same rounds over the past decade say maybe NONE will become NHLers one day

   Again, it’s just weird that there is any clamoring for Boston’s prospects right now when the fact is most of them aren’t real NHL guys and those who are, or maybe will be one day….

   All of those players would be far better served staying in PVD the rest of this year versus playing for the sinking ship in Boston that is playing for nothing, for a lame duck coaching staff on a Bruins club where even the towel boy in the locker room has already checked out for the season

   Also, I’m not sure if Bridget got the memo but the Bruins are actually trying to ice their worst possible lineup and lose as many games as possible and if anyone says that is not true…

   -Their 1st D pair is a 3rd pair

   -Their 3rd D pair belongs in the AHL or the ECHL

   -They have 5 or 6 forwards that are AHL / Tweeners at best

   -Unless Pasta leads the way, it’s next to impossible for them to win a game offensively

   -The special teams are still absolute trash

   – The goaltending is up and down, mostly down

   -They went an entire period vs TB without a shot, were outshot by 20 and they made ZERO lineup changes the next game

   Um, it's rather clear, the Bruins are trying to lose games in an attempt to get into the Top 10 of the NHL draft, NOT win any games or try to develop any Providence players at the NHL level right now

   That’s why the big club roster hasn’t changed much and why it won’t change very much for the remainder of the season

   The ONLY reason Fabian Lysell is even being called today up is they just went two straight games with 20 or fewer shots which hasn’t happened in something like 20 years to any Bruins team

   Combine that with a couple of ugly losses and Sweeney is just trying to prevent taking even more shit from the fans and the press right now

   That’s why Fabian Lysell is up in Boston now, not because he’s earned the shot or that they expect he’ll do anything in the NHL because he’s spent three years in the AHL not doing much of anything

   Also, I 100% knew who Marat K. was and how stupidly he was being deployed in MIN. His scouting reports and KHL highlights all screamed future NHLer. The second I saw that deal go through, I screamed "STEAL" and also thought, what an FN moron Bill Guerin was for one, even trading for a near useless Justin Brazeau and two, giving up on such a dynamic player as Marat K.

   Concerning the length of the Bruins rebuild/retool, that all depends on who is running the front office…

   If it's Don Sweeney helming the ship, the rebuild will never end. He can't draft and his outside the organization UFAs have largely been garbage. He's been okay at trades but he just traded away any of the players they'd be willing to be move on without, thus there's very few assets left to move to even improve now

   The Farm System is still trash
   Sweeney can't draft or develop
   They still have very limited assets to work with (prospects, draft picks, etc…)
   Still no 1C, 1LW or 2LW

   There are far too many holes to fill as the Bruins again still need a real 1C and two more Top 6 wings as well more secondary scoring in the bottom 6 and a real Top 4 replacement for Brandon Carlo.

   I'm sorry, the Bruins aren't very close to being real Cup contenders right now and even if a lot of good moves were made soon, they'd still be at least two to three years away from being Cup competitive again

   And again, if Don Sweeney has to build this thing from the ground up it'll be an "unknown" timeline for the rebuild/re-tool because Sweeney has proven in spades he's not very good at "building" anything, instead, he's much better at taking something "good" he inherited and "destroying" it

   So…

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   @mikael7777-c7l 1 an ago

   Lohrei is a huge defensive liability. He shouldn't be given a big contract until he gets his +/- under control

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   @asb3pe 1 an ago

   Q: How Long Until Bruins Are Back To Being Playoff Contenders?
   A: How Long Until Swayman Can Be Moved?
   always answer a question with another question LOL

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   @bruins77_7 1 an ago

   Well if they can somehow trade Swayman, they can free up more money for the offense. Give Lindholm more time especially he is pretty good at face-off. Either way, I have a few targets for trade or free agency that I would love to see, have all of choices below or some combinations.
   1) Trade with the Ducks to get Zegras, I know he was hurt the last 2 years, but he can be your skill guys to give you 60 to 70 points when healthy, he has 1 more year for $5.7M+ and then an RFA
   2) Try to get Marner through free agency even though he is expensive, but if you want skill you have to pay
   3) Trade for Alex Tuch, he has 1 more year of $4.7M and become a UFA
   4) Will have to wait for a #1 center, hopefully from within, if not, try to get one the year after

   2025-2026 (Starting Lineup)
   Zacha – Geekie – Pastrnak
   Mittelstadt – Zegras – Marner
   Khusnutdinov – Lindholm – Tuch
   Lauko(maybe) – Kastelic – Kopeke(maybe)

   Lindholm – McAvoy
   Zadorov – Jokiharju
   Lohrei – Peeke

   What do you guys think?