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Okay, I'll bite lol. I think one of the advantages to a regional system is maybe they can eliminate those early afternoon mid-week games to accommodate travel? I think the crosstown rivalries (NY, CHI) are something special and they bring in a lot of attendance, not sure that they would the same they played each other on a regular basis. Also, the FL teams need to be aligned with the Northeast but that's where the fans come from. Yankees, Red Sox, Mets….they travel very well and they support the FL franchises. Not sure what Astros and Rangers fan feel about the 2 hour delays with having to stay up late to see their teams play in CA.
I wish Detroit and Toronto could be in the same division somehow. The rivalry was big at one time and tends to create a lot incentive for both teams. Salt Lake City is a weird one. I guess you have to keep it where you have it but if the Athletics end up in LV Salt Lake and Vegas match up real well as rivals. I'm trying to work out division North and South and the divide those in half somehow. I guess a bit like the NFL. I gonna get blow back on this idea but it makes for great discussions. I actually called about this very thing so thanks for covering that.
Take your four division aligment and swap out the Texas teams for the upper Midwest teams, and it's not bad, except for Detroit landing in what's essentially a South Division.
No owner would go along with this plan, but let's go completely random. Why does geography matter? Think 1979-80 NHL Norris Division: Hartford, Montreal, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Los Angeles. Adams Division: Quebec, Toronto, Minnesota, Boston, Buffalo. Let's make some chaos!!
I appreciate the creative thinking, but I’m not on board with scrapping the AL and NL for a 4-division model. The American and National Leagues are a huge part of MLB’s identity and history — from the DH rule origins to iconic rivalries and league-based traditions. Getting rid of them would erase too much of what makes baseball special. If Portland and Salt Lake City get expansion teams, there's a much simpler and cleaner solution: just slide Portland into the AL West and Salt Lake into the NL West. Both cities fit geographically, and this keeps the league structure intact without overcomplicating things or losing the legacy of the two leagues. Realignment doesn’t need to be a total overhaul to work.
Ok here is my take on realignment. You can do one of two ways (that make the most sense)
Go back to pre-1995 and have an East and West divisions. Keep the American and National designations (The NFL still have the AFC and NFC, so if it's not broke don't fix it)
AL West would be Seattle, Sacramento, Anaheim, Portland, Texas, Houston, KC, Minnesota
AL East would be Chicago White Sox, Detroit, Cleveland, Toronto, Baltimore, New York Yankees, Boston, Tampa Bay
NL West would be San Fransisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, Arizona, SLC, Colorado, St Louise, Chicago Cubs
NL East Would be Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Atlanta, Washington, Philadelphia, New York Mets, Miami
I put Portland in the American so they can be natural rivals with Seattle and SLC in the National so they could become natural rivals with Colorado. Playoffs would be the Top two teams from each division for 8 team playoffs, no wild card. The only bad thing is we could see teams that are under 500 or have a lower record than another team making the playoffs. Other than that it's balanced as well as could be. I hate to break up the Milwaukee and Cubs rivalries that have started to grow, I would also get rid of "inter-league" play and focus on playing more games against your Division rivals which makes for a more even playing field for the playoffs.
The other option is to do an NFL Style divisions for each league
NL West – San Fransisco, Los Angeles, San Diego, SLC
AL West – Seattle, Portland, Anaheim, Sacramento
NL North – Colorado, St Louise, Chicago Cubs, Milwaukee
AL North – Minnesota, Chicago White Sox, KC, Detroit
NL East – Pittsburgh, New York Mets, Cincinnati, Philadelphia
AL East – New York Yankees, Boston, Cleveland, Toronto
NL South – Arizona, Washington, Atlanta, Miami
AL South – Texas, Houston, Tampa Bay, Baltimore
Obviously the South Divisions are the most funky, but I think it makes the most sense, these are the two most obvious ways to realign keeping most of the geographical rivalries in tact and keeping most of the big rivlalries in tact, and making divisions more equal so we don't have a bunch of scrub teams in one division.
I like your west and east division. I think I'd do a "north" division with SLC, Colorado, KC, StL, ChC, ChW, Minnesota and Milwaukee. "South" Tex, Houston, Atlanta, Tampa, Miami, Cincinnati, Cleveland and Detroit. Cool video and concept.
Everyone plays everyone now anyways. Not sure it would be a huge difference. Now the playoff format can be changed that's for sure.
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It'd be unfair to Seattle and Portland, but to keep the Dodgers and Giants together, swap the D-backs and Giants. The A's, now (potentially) in Vegas, wouldn't have the same necessary ties to the California teams. If they stay in Sacramento or NorCal, keep it as is
The west would have travel issues with Seattle. But at least it’s all in the same time zone so that would mitigate issues with jet lag and fatigue.
swap white sox and twins and i like it. split yankees from mets too, also angels from giants. this way intra-city rivalries are more special events.
I'd put 2 teams being: 1) Montréal 2) Nashville.
I agree with getting rid of the American and National League because there everyone has the DH. Would there still be three wildcard teams?
Thats so crazy the big territory the Braves have in this day and age. Thats gotta be the best territory in all of pro sports. I mean look at that. ONE place that would work would be Havana, Cuba. But that would require The Feds to help out with a change in government there. Might happen. Defintely dump the AL/NL set up. That time has passed.
I still would prefer same city teams split. I dont like giving the travel benefit to LA, NYC and CHI. While tougher markets like SEA, TB, COL, TOR (INTL) have much tougher away travel scenarios.
You nailed it Brodie. Being a Twins fan all my life I always thought it kinda stunk that we didn't have any real "border battles" with the Brewers. It would be cool to have a rivalry, then again I write this with a pain in my chest after all that has transpired this year. Dang it man, I wish I could get excited about stuff like this, but with the Pohlads in control there is zero reason to be excited about anything. I jokingly switched alliances last week to being a Brewers fan, but the more this news settles in, from the Deadline Fire Sale to the lack of a team sale, the more I wonder if I should just actually join the Brew Crew.
Bring Houston back to the NL
Miss the Chicago cubs and St Louis match ups. 😊
The only thing is that there is some cool history with NL/AL… plus, those neat postseasons. Mets vs. Yankees World Series becomes impossible if they share a division, for example. As an Os fan, I sort of grew up with Pirates being the rival because my dad grew up as a fan watching those World Series games against them and now they both are in the same boat of being not-so-great teams that were last impressive during a similar time. Just gives me mixed feelings about it, however, overall I agree with your argument. With the elimination of the DH the divide makes so much less sense. two Cy Youngs, MVPs, Rookies, just make those awards feel a little less special.
The mariners look so lonely up in the northwest. Need to add a team in Vancouver
I like your work. With all due respect, your realignment map is horrendible mostly in the middle
Definitely agree the Phillies and Pirates should be back in the same division with the Florida teams in a Central Division.
hi. so what if they choose 2 expansion teams. and then…. we all know Fisher doesnt have the money in Vegas and the A's DO NOT go to Vegas. Then Las Vegas doesnt get a team? Either the Pathetics or an Expansion. Lovely.
I like the idea of four 8 team divisions, and getting rid of the AL/NL as they're for all intents and purposes the same in 2025. By creating geographic rivalries, you can sell regional packages, and that makes sense as baseball fans tend to be more regional than national when it comes to how they follow their team.
The 3 issues that are hard to reconcile. 1. The travel inequality between the western teams and the northeast teams. By clustering the Boston/NY/Philly teams and significantly reducing their travel load, how that might impact regular season and postseason performance as compared to the rest of the baseball. 2. The traditional regional or interleague rivalries will either be completely split up (Brewers vs Cubs, Braves vs Mets) or be watered down (Yankees vs Mets, Cubs vs White Sox). 3. And selfishly as a Mariners fan, what the ramifications are to conceding large areas and fans to a Portland expansion team.
Keep the National and American, but since the National league was considered the senior circuit, you make it the upper level league, and have some sort of promotion relegation system. Have a real world series against the Japanese or something…
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If there is 4 divisions of 8 teams then IMO it should be like this (also divided Top and Bottom for 8 divisions of 4 teams, whether full West/East or keeping the AL/NL)
This is assuming the expansion teams are the same as in the video (Portland and SLC)
West:
Dodgers, Giants, Padres, DBacks
Angels, A's, Mariners, Portland (ex)
Central:
SLC (ex), Rockies, Cardinals, Cubs
Rangers, Astros, Royals, White Sox
North/South:
Twins, Brewers, Tigers, Guardians
Braves, Reds, Rays, Marlins
East:
Blue Jays, Red Sox, Yankees Orioles
Phillies, Mets, Pirates, Nationals
Also I'm gonna make additional one in case the expansions are split in West and East
West:
Dodgers, Giants, Padres, DBacks
Angels, A's, Mariners, Western Expansion
South:
Rangers, Astros, Royals, Rockies/Rays
Braves, Marlins, Rays/Reds, Eastern Expansion
North:
Cardinals, Cubs, Brewers, Reds/Rockies
Twins, White Sox, Tigers, Guardians
East:
Blue Jays, Red Sox, Yankees, Orioles
Phillies, Mets, Pirates, Nationals
The American and National League have been contrivances since the start of the 21st Century anyway, so discarding them isn't going to shock anyone I think. But I think 8 divisions of 4 makes more sense than 4 divisions of 8 simply because of economics and regular season scheduling. It also affords MLB an opportunity to realign in a way that simultaneously suits their economic interests and earns fan support: by naming divisions not geographically, but by taking a page from the 1970's NHL and naming divisions after heroes of the game. For example:
Boston, New York Mets, New York Yankees and Philadelphia could be in a "Ruth Division."
Baltimore, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Washington could be in a "Clemente Division."
Atlanta, Cincinnati, Florida, Tampa could be in an "Aaron Division."
Detroit, Milwaukee, Minnesota and Toronto could be in a "Cobb Division." Cobb's just the first name that came to mind on that one, but you get the idea.
Chicago Cubs, Chicago White Sox, Kansas City and St. Louis could be in a "Banks Division" or a "Veeck Division."
Arizona, Colorado, Houston and Texas could be in a "Ryan Division."
California (yeah, I know, but they're the California Angels to me), Los Angeles, Las Vegas and San Diego could be in a "Lasorda Division" or "Williams Division."
Portland, San Francisco, Seattle and Utah could be in a "DiMaggio Division."
Each team plays a 4 game home-and-home with each of the 28 teams not in their own division (112 games in total).
Each team plays the other 3 teams in their division 16 times each (48 games in total).
If you're really not cool with the idea of reducing the schedule from 162 games to 160, add one game to each series involving the two teams closest to a team in geography, whether or not a divisional game (e.g., Cleveland would play an extra game against Pittsburgh and Detroit).
16 teams make the playoffs, with each division's champion automatically qualifying but no division having more than three qualify. Those teams are then seeded #1 through #16, regardless of division, and play a 3 game series. Winners are re-seeded and play a 5 game series. Winners from that round are re-seeded and play a 7 game series, with the winners going on to a 7 game World Series.