Seeing him bitch out other players and then do stupid plays himself is where he lost me and all my friends/family. Mitch the Bitch was born.
mofo75ca
His ego.
bangnburn
There are going to be a lot of knee jerk comments here based on the title but this is a surprisingly good article. If you’re just posting a smart ass comment, I really do encourage you to read the article. It’s not much new information but Friedge does a good job putting everything together.
Really looking forward to this game being over so we will (hopefully) move past the Marner stuff.
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treetimes
When he and his camp held out for more money. That’s exactly where.
SpatulaTarte
All of their best players got worse in the playoffs compared to the regular season. No team can win if that happens. The end.
outscidr-
Love his talent. His mouth got him in trouble with the fans. I didn’t like his attitude. Always acting like he was so hard done by. Just my opinion.
I_Am_Vladimir_Putin
In games 5-7.
chipzy20
The fact is they lost with him. People will say its because of “x and y” that marner is hated but If literally everything stayed the same but we won the championship and he left nobody wouldve cared about all the controversial non hockey stuff with marner
james-HIMself
He decided to leave over a year before leaving. Shit leader and passenger
Spacepickle89
When we didn’t trade him before his NT
Showtime98
Really great article, the whole Marner saga is truly sad.
Blue_KikiT92
I know this topic sells, but I thought we already had this conversation when the trade happened? I love Friedge and am sure the article is good, I’m just so tired of this conversation, I hope this is the last time we are going to have it.
JockoRQJabba
I don’t hate the man, I pity the fool.
TObuz
I loved Mitch when we first drafted him and his early years with us.
But he’s one of the best modern examples of an athlete who is thin-skinned, prone to riding the highs too high and the lows too low, while also having a strong need for external validation.
Sarge1387
Apparently there was a report released yesterday that he was essentially a cancer from day 1, and lists everything he, his camp (including his father) did that amounts to mega primadonna behaviour.
I’m not saying it’s credible, I haven’t read it myself nor have I been able to find it. I only know about « a report »/ »some information that came to light » that was mentioned this morning on First Up. It also could 100% be hogwash, but given how he negotiated…I’m leaning slightly towards it being more rooted in truth than not,
If I can find it I’ll link it
stripseek_teedawt
I’ve read this story 20 times already, just with different words.
VolumeNo5217
He’s an entitled brat. Prima Donna. Complete loser mindset. Unfortunately for him – it looks like it’s driven by his family – the people he trusts most.
Robeydobe
Seems like he couldn’t handle the pressure of being a Toronto kid playing on the Leafs
Party-Yoghurt-8462
I wouldn’t consider myself a Marner hater. But seeing in this story that Rantanen would have been willing to sign in Toronto really rubbed me the wrong way.
Mitch royally screwed the team when he knew he wasn’t going to re-sign anyways. What a horrible way to part ways with the team, and the fanbase. He could have just signed with Vegas anyways if he wanted to in the summer.
Consider how different this season would be with Rantanen.
oogyboogy44
So to sum it up, Marner and his camp felt like they should be treated like a 1st overall pick, felt he should be paid amongst the highest in the league, be treated like a superstar, but can’t handle the scrutiny that comes with all those things.
In other words, wants all the glamour and none of the pressure that comes with it.
tortured_fanclub
Honestly, I hope the Leafs get the W because they NEED it. Fuck the VGK. I have disliked them from their inception and I hate them even more withe the Toronto glory boy, wearing Dougie’s number.
Well you definitely aren’t no Dougie. I can’t wait til he plays his return home game so the media can STFU about it already. Put this behind them. I like others here hope that this doesn’t drag out to be a JT-Islanders thing. Why give it that much importance? If anything it would fuel his ego if after many years the fanbase still cared that much.
TMLTBJ
The playoffs
Angryhippo2910
1. When his camp held out for Austin Matthews money. If he took around 9mil AAV he would have had much more leeway with fans, and would have had almost 2 mil in extra cap room to spend on the depth that was lacking over the years.
2. COVID 19 killed the Shannaplan. Signing the core 4 to big money wasn’t necessarily a bad idea given that everyone was expecting the cap to go up considerably. COVID kept the cap flat during the peak of those 4 big contracts, so the leafs became top heavy and could be easily shut down in the playoffs since all our offence came from just 4 guys.
The leafs probably needed to trade one of the core 4 when COVID happened, and Marner would have been the most obvious one to move. Didn’t have a NMC yet like Tavares, had a higher AAV than Willy’s bridge deal, and his playmaking skills are easier to replace than Austin’s goal scoring.
Also obligatory this is Paul Marner’s fault.
shindleria
It truly felt like things went sour after that last puck over the glass in the Habs series and every time they ran it back and he repeated those performances it got more and more bitter.
burkie17
He bit the hand that fed him, simple as that. Next
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They didn’t win.
Seeing him bitch out other players and then do stupid plays himself is where he lost me and all my friends/family. Mitch the Bitch was born.
His ego.
There are going to be a lot of knee jerk comments here based on the title but this is a surprisingly good article. If you’re just posting a smart ass comment, I really do encourage you to read the article. It’s not much new information but Friedge does a good job putting everything together.
Really looking forward to this game being over so we will (hopefully) move past the Marner stuff.
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When he and his camp held out for more money. That’s exactly where.
All of their best players got worse in the playoffs compared to the regular season. No team can win if that happens. The end.
Love his talent. His mouth got him in trouble with the fans. I didn’t like his attitude. Always acting like he was so hard done by. Just my opinion.
In games 5-7.
The fact is they lost with him. People will say its because of “x and y” that marner is hated but If literally everything stayed the same but we won the championship and he left nobody wouldve cared about all the controversial non hockey stuff with marner
He decided to leave over a year before leaving. Shit leader and passenger
When we didn’t trade him before his NT
Really great article, the whole Marner saga is truly sad.
I know this topic sells, but I thought we already had this conversation when the trade happened? I love Friedge and am sure the article is good, I’m just so tired of this conversation, I hope this is the last time we are going to have it.
I don’t hate the man, I pity the fool.
I loved Mitch when we first drafted him and his early years with us.
But he’s one of the best modern examples of an athlete who is thin-skinned, prone to riding the highs too high and the lows too low, while also having a strong need for external validation.
Apparently there was a report released yesterday that he was essentially a cancer from day 1, and lists everything he, his camp (including his father) did that amounts to mega primadonna behaviour.
I’m not saying it’s credible, I haven’t read it myself nor have I been able to find it. I only know about « a report »/ »some information that came to light » that was mentioned this morning on First Up. It also could 100% be hogwash, but given how he negotiated…I’m leaning slightly towards it being more rooted in truth than not,
If I can find it I’ll link it
I’ve read this story 20 times already, just with different words.
He’s an entitled brat. Prima Donna. Complete loser mindset. Unfortunately for him – it looks like it’s driven by his family – the people he trusts most.
Seems like he couldn’t handle the pressure of being a Toronto kid playing on the Leafs
I wouldn’t consider myself a Marner hater. But seeing in this story that Rantanen would have been willing to sign in Toronto really rubbed me the wrong way.
Mitch royally screwed the team when he knew he wasn’t going to re-sign anyways. What a horrible way to part ways with the team, and the fanbase. He could have just signed with Vegas anyways if he wanted to in the summer.
Consider how different this season would be with Rantanen.
So to sum it up, Marner and his camp felt like they should be treated like a 1st overall pick, felt he should be paid amongst the highest in the league, be treated like a superstar, but can’t handle the scrutiny that comes with all those things.
In other words, wants all the glamour and none of the pressure that comes with it.
Honestly, I hope the Leafs get the W because they NEED it. Fuck the VGK. I have disliked them from their inception and I hate them even more withe the Toronto glory boy, wearing Dougie’s number.
Well you definitely aren’t no Dougie. I can’t wait til he plays his return home game so the media can STFU about it already. Put this behind them. I like others here hope that this doesn’t drag out to be a JT-Islanders thing. Why give it that much importance? If anything it would fuel his ego if after many years the fanbase still cared that much.
The playoffs
1. When his camp held out for Austin Matthews money. If he took around 9mil AAV he would have had much more leeway with fans, and would have had almost 2 mil in extra cap room to spend on the depth that was lacking over the years.
2. COVID 19 killed the Shannaplan. Signing the core 4 to big money wasn’t necessarily a bad idea given that everyone was expecting the cap to go up considerably. COVID kept the cap flat during the peak of those 4 big contracts, so the leafs became top heavy and could be easily shut down in the playoffs since all our offence came from just 4 guys.
The leafs probably needed to trade one of the core 4 when COVID happened, and Marner would have been the most obvious one to move. Didn’t have a NMC yet like Tavares, had a higher AAV than Willy’s bridge deal, and his playmaking skills are easier to replace than Austin’s goal scoring.
Also obligatory this is Paul Marner’s fault.
It truly felt like things went sour after that last puck over the glass in the Habs series and every time they ran it back and he repeated those performances it got more and more bitter.
He bit the hand that fed him, simple as that. Next