Points des défenseurs par équipe de la LNH – avons-nous besoin d’hommes offensifs ?
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Competitive_Dance478
@Red Wings de Détroit
Points des défenseurs par équipe de la LNH – avons-nous besoin d’hommes offensifs ?
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Competitive_Dance478
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We have a perfectly good ASP at home
I personally would rather we worry about obtaining a defenseman or two who can help keep the puck out of our net, before worrying about a defenseman who can help put the puck in the opponent’s net.
There are a number of things that feed into this. It would be nice to have more scoring from the back end, but more scoring from the back end doesn’t necessarily mean the team is better.
Our powerplay not resetting through Seider is a
big factor. He quarterbacks the powerplay on paper, but in practice a lot of the recycling of chances goes through the wings with Raymond and Kane or below the goal line with Larkin or DeBrincat, with the other heading netfront. Seider is involved, but is not the focal point like many classic powerplay quarterbacks are (Bouchard, Hughes, Hutson, Makar).
Moreover, our top pairing is two guys who excel defensively in Mo and Ed. Both can contribute offensively and I’d take them over several of the guys topping the points list. But it does mean that our systems and schemes are designed to generate less offense from the defensemen and more through the forwards — you scheme for your personnel. Case in point: Darren Raddysh’s point pace is better than any one of Victor Hedman’s career campaigns, but I doubt many teams would want Raddysh over Hedman. They’re different players who are utilized differently. Tampa uses Raddysh a lot differently than they did Hedman, even though theoretically Raddysh is filling Hedman’s shoes.
Lastly, team scoring as a whole is down, largely due to poor finishing, bad luck, and frequently stellar opposing goaltending. This trickles down to our defense too. Lots of assists missed out on even though the chance was created.
And, only semi-seriously: Second half AlJo has only had like 3 weeks to cook.
Maybe. I think AJo and ASP’s play between now and the deadline might dictate if we target forwards or defense. If they show signs of being thrown off by the long break, I’d bet on a defender or two but if they look recharged down the stretch, that’ll give us enough depth to look at forwards.
Unfortunately the top part of that list is good and the bottom part aside from Vegas and Detroit sucks
Yes the good/winning teams always gets offense from the blueline and this was the case for us too back in the day with Kronwall/Rafalski/Lidström.
My thought is long term ASP helps us climb this list fairly significantly. He’s got 18 points now. If he was on like a 50 point pace, let’s add 20 and say he’s at around 38 right now. Now you’re middle of the pack.
We need some defensive d men too
First we need more defensemen that can play defense. I’m not just saying that to be quippy; there are a couple weak links that we’re waiting on AHL talent development to replace before we’re serious contenders.
This is like a list of mediocre forwards who happen to play D
We have ASP, and there’s many rumors we’d be interested in Werenski or Q. Hughes in the foreseeable future, just not right now.
I’d also rather have d men who are stronger in their own ice, since we’ll have a developing Cossa behind them who could really benefit from that.
Plus, Mo and Ed have shown to be great two-way guys. Just unfortunate Ed’s been injured. Throw in ASP and one of the guys above and we’ve got a damn good blue line.
In what place is Detroit in?
As of right now it looks lackluster but I’m 100% confident in asp becoming a minimum 60 points guy and big Ed developing into stable 50 points per season on pairs W Seider and ASP
Columbus 4th and Vegas 27th. Sounds like it’s not that essential to me haha. For real tho, ASP and Simon have another level of offense, it’s clear to me both of those players have been way more focused getting their defensive game in order first. I would also throw Albert in there as well.
We’re not good at transitioning the puck, and for all of ASP offensive skill he’s not good at it at the moment.
We have a lot of offensive defensemen. Hamonic, Holl, Gustafsson.
They’re just the wrong kind of offensive
Werenski might come this way soon maybe 🙏🏼
We need some offensive forwards.