[97.5 The Fanatic] Le président des opérations hockey des Flyers, Keith Jones, explique s’il est satisfait de l’état de la reconstruction des Flyers :
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StubbornLeech07
@Flyers de Philadelphie
[97.5 The Fanatic] Le président des opérations hockey des Flyers, Keith Jones, explique s’il est satisfait de l’état de la reconstruction des Flyers :
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StubbornLeech07
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Who exactly is calling for them to rush the rebuild?
“All that money is starting to come off the books”
*gives Dvorak contract.
Yup that’s great.
The plan when they took over was fine.
And I do think they did a really good job selling pieces off for very good returns while also bringing in some young players/prospects that have big potential at a discounted trade cost.
It’s all going to come down to how the players they drafted develop and how they deploy the cap space they freed up. But even if they use the cap space wisely… if the players they selected using all the draft capital they had accumulated fail… we are fucked.
The plan will be fine as long as they are aggressive in trying to add talent this offseason. If not, they are screwed. Can’t keep sitting around waiting for Luchanko and Nesbitt to MAYBE become 3C’s.
I wish they just went all in with tanking, but they are where they said they wanted to be. Cleared a lot of the bad money off the books, brought in some talent already, and the team is still playing important games near the end of the season.
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The big issue I always have with the responses we’ve been getting from Jones and Briere on this specific topic lately is that it’s always worded in a way that makes it seem like fans are upset about an entirely different problem than they actually are. Like I don’t know how this could be more clear than this:
*Nobody is upset at how long this is taking, they’re upset that the Flyers are doing this in such a way that will make it extremeley difficult, if not impossible, to add a 1C or a 1D, both of which this is not going to work without.*
I would be willing to sit through another 3-5 years of some bottom-10 hockey if it meant we’d come out on the other side with our own Misa and Dickinson, let alone a Celebrini/Bedard/Schaefer level talent. When your asking your fanbase to put up with all of this shit hockey only to « just trust me bro » them with barely point-per-game OHL players as your top Center prospects and multiple long-term rehab projects as your best D prospects, not even to mention the absolute shitshow that’s been the Michkov situation this year? Yeah that’s pretty obviously the part fans are mad about
So you set yourself up for money in depreciated UFA markets where you can’t use it.
Getting the “younger talent” and “accumulation of draft picks” was half-hearted at best when you field a mediocre team rather than a bad one and rather than sell off assets like Dvorak to set yourself up you re-sign them.
You half-assed the rebuild and now you’re selling us that you’re happy.
Good time to be a Flyer fan!
I’m not going to pretend to know more than the president of the hockey club on this. He knows the plan better than any fan. I highly doubt he sees our struggles and is happy with our current plan. I’ll trust you on this one Jonesy
Tone deaf blurb – fans aren’t mad about missing the playoffs, they are mad you’re building a playoff contender and not a cup contender.
Our overall prospect/young player pool is far below other rebuilding teams like San Jose, Chicago, Anaheim, and cleaning up Ryan ellis’s contract doesn’t really matter if you don’t have talent to spend that money on.
Everything they do is so contradictory and it’s very confusing
Whenever I see fans get upset at these statements, I just think what do you expect them to say? If you actually take these statements that are meant to be put out to fans as full truths then the only fool is you.
I don’t even know what timeline we are working on. TK and Sanheim? Michkov and Martone? One is NOW and you need to start pushing the chips in (like the Dvorak move I guess) and the other is a few years off and things like keeping Risto and Dvorak make little sense.
Last thing i want is to rush but I really don’t feel like we are in a better position, i think we all just want to see progress not perfection. This doesn’t feel any different to any other year.
I’m far less impressed with the work they are doing than they are.
There is a point to be made that we’re doing better than we realize – even with Foerster out for several months this team is closer to making the playoffs than in years past.
Our floor has gotten higher. That’s what I’m looking for in a rebuild on a macro level.
Ah yes clearing cap space for guys like Dvorak and UFAs where there are no 1C/1Ds will definitely help us get 1C/1Ds to become contenders.
We are beyond fucked.
It’s great they have cap space, but all the good UFAs for the positions they need resigned with their teams. Yeah Keith, we watched the accumulation of draft picks turn into Luchanko, Nesbitt, Amico…
They don’t have a clue what they’re doing at this point lol how can you be three years into your tenure and saying the same shit at pressers you were saying the same day you got hired?
How much of “we need a 1C” is “we need Connor McDavid” in disguise?
This is getting exhausting
I mean, I don’t put a ton of stock in this one way or the other. What do you expect him to say “yea it’s all going to shit. We can’t draft, have signed questionable contracts, coach is a bald baby, they really should fire our asses.”
Time will tell. If they whiff on all 3 of Nesbitt, Luchanko, and Nesbitt that would be the end for them for any competently ran organization. Are they able to find center depth and/or get good return for the wingers that’ll have to be shipped out? Can we stabilize the goalie position and find a halfway decent platoon for Vladar or a long term option that pans out?
The cap going up is great, unless you are a team in need. Especially now when teams will have 9 million dollar raise next year and another 9 mil raise the following season. Also having control until players become 27 or play 7 years holds teams back for acquiring young talented players. Good for us with Mich, Zegras, Martone and the top level players, but it means you really have to hit on your picks and have the right strategy. It really makes Luchenko a big reach in hindsight, and Nesbitt as well. Nesbitt needs to pan out for this team to improve. The free agent centers are underwhelming and older.