La seule personne qui a plus de points que lui a joué sept matchs de plus. Je ne vois aucun argument pour qu’il ne soit pas le MVP si la saison se terminait maintenant.
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Gullible_Classroom71
@Ligue nationale de hockey
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Isn’t he already?
He currently is according to the odds I’ve been seeing lately.
How often does everyone have to incessantly call a guy underrated before he’s no longer underrated anyway.
Without Mack the sharks could very well be dead last in the league, that’s about as “most valuable” as it gets
MacKinnon with 45 goals and +56 on a bad PP team is also outrageous
Celebrini in my eyes, hes had to drag an otherwise awful team
If McDavid isnt on Edm, They’d maybe be a wildcard team
Mackinnon not on Colorado, They’d be top 3 in their division
Same thing with Kutcherov
No Celebrini would mean San Jose is a lottery team
MVP should go to the player that carries their team the hardest, Kuch is fantastic but is on a team with a ton of fire power thst would still be good without him. Without Celebrini the sharks are literally the worst team in the league.
He’s an absolute freak of nature & I somehow feel like he’s still underrated.
Nobody plays like him. Nobody. He’s like a robot with how he processes the game & how he can slow the game down, or up the pace.
I don’t think any player in the league (including McDavid or MacKinnon) elevates their linemates more than Kucherov.
I’d say he’s worthy of the Ted Lindsey, but the Hart is supposed to go to the player “most valuable to his team compared to the rest of the league”, meaning the player who his respective team relies on the most. TBL would still be a good team if Kucherov wasn’t playing out of his mind like this. San Jose would be dead last in the standings. The Islanders would be bottom feeders without Sorokin (and Schaefer arguably), the Oilers are nothing without McDavid or Draisaitl.
Now, I would be wiling to compromise a bit and factor in stuff such as GTG and GWGs, OTGWGs, etc, but the Hart trophy should be given to the player who makes the biggest impact on his team’s position in the standings.
kucherov is somehow still underrated even with the insane last few years he has had. maybe it’s because he plays in tampa, maybe it’s because he’s russian. maybe it’s both. but the last couple of months I agree he has been the best player in the nhl
Celebrini is far more important for sharks than Kuch is for Tamba. Sure Kucherov elevates his teammates more but without him Lightning would still be good. Celebrini has like 50 more points than the second in his team and without him this season Sharks would bottom 5 of the league.
All of this at a $9.5 million cap hit…
I would be fine with Kuche monkey winning it or NM.
Just don’t give it to a goalie again. That was such a dumb decision last season.
+56 is a crazy +/- but +41 is great too considering the defense and goals against for the Lightning are definitely higher than they should be because of all the injuries and not-so-great back-up goalie we are stuck with.
Regardless…KUCH IS THE MVP EVERY YEAR TO ME!!
I know I’m biased being a Sharks fan, but Celebrini has literally turned this team around. He has moree than double the next highest points on the team and no one else comes close. MVP is about how much the team needs the player and god damn do the Sharks need Brini. Out of 32 wins he has a point in 31. That’s a crazy stat.
I think MacKinnon tbh with that +/-, 45 goals as well as similar points per game.
BUT
If San Jose gets to the playoffs then there’s a case for Celebrini that has been carrying that team.
Here’s a dark horse: Quinn Hughes. Hear me out.
The Wild’s performance before obtaining Hughes was that of a team appearing to be strong, but likely a fake contender:
18-9-5 record. 1.28 P/GP. +8 GD (93 GF – 85 GA). -61 SD. 22.1% PP.
After obtaining Hughes:
22-10-7 record. 1.31 P/GP. +23 GD (141 GF – 118 GA). +6 SD. 28.3% PP.
Hughes since joining the Wild:
38GP / 4G / 40A / 44P / 16PPP/ 27:57 ATOI
In sum: the Wild were a fake contender prior to landing Hughes, largely stealing wins off of hot goaltending, and somehow winning through a -61 SD. That’s not sustainable. After landing Hughes, they had a +15 GD improvement and a massive +67 SD improvement as the Wild’s goaltending went from hot to regular, but still good. The Wild’s PP during that time ranks second in the entire league behind only Edmonton. While Minnesota remains Third in the West, they actually are a real Cup contender with the stats to back it up. Without Hughes, the Wild would arguably be battling with Utah or possibly even Nashville right now.
If the Sharks and Oilers don’t make the playoffs, I think it’s Hughes or Kucherov. Kuchy still probably takes the Hart, but Hughes has to be in that conversation sans McDavid and Celebrini.
It’s the most valuable player to their team, not the « guy who has lots of points » award
Without Adam Foote, the Canucks wouldn’t have the best lottery odds. It really should be him and it’s not even close.
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Might as well give the Norris and Vezina to whichever D and G have the most points per game respectively as well…
Was the MVP of my 550+ night lol
I’d still lean MacKinnon. His team got out to such a huge lead and are pretty clearly the Presidents trophy favorites. Best player on best team is normally how voting works. I will say the voters / league sorta owe Kucherov a hart after leading the league in points two years in a row and the two Stanley Cups since his only Hart.
If cellebrini drags his team to the playoffs without any elite help, I think he deserves it.
Regular season is not over, get your popcorn, sit down and relax.
100%
A make up win after losing to MacKinnon for some reason a couple of years back
After what he did to my team the other night — I agree
Oh so Celebrini is insanely good?? Forgive my ignorance, I’ve been so enthralled with the Sabres finally being good that I haven’t focused on much else in the league lol
Its about more than ppg. Who plays on the pk?
He’s pretty good at the hockey
Should’ve been for the last two years as well.
Mckinnon just looking at numbers alone, but I agree Kucherov is most important to his team
Hard disagree. It’s the MVP award not best player award. McDavid and certainly Macklin are more valuable to their teams
Celebrini is the only reason the Sharks are where they are. That’s MVP.
Kuch seems to have a habit of absolutely going nuclear in the second half of a season
The Bruins without Pastrnak would be fighting The Canucks for that bottom spot.
Mack if the sharks make the playoffs for sure. If not it’s kuch for sure. Kuch is going crazy down the stretch
EK65 if the pens make the playoffs
If Kucherov got to play in the West these numbers wouldn’t be close.
Mvp should not equate to most points. Honestly I wouldn’t even have gun in the discussion. There are a number of others who are more valuable to their team.
I have 3 of these guys on my fantasy team 😎
Mackinonn or Celebrini. No one should ever even consider Kucherov or McDavid rn, all they get is a honorable mention for being really good. Pastrnak is closer to them than they are to the top two
I don’t know about favourite. He’s definitely in the mix, it might be his year.
Guys a stud