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Gotta be honest guys, as a Panthers fan, the fact that you barely talk about the team when they're winning/setting records/everything else positive and then on the rare occasion you do mention them it's strictly negative after 1 game, seems very odd. Maybe I'm sensitive as a fan, especially after a lost, but not a great look. Don't know why you'd have a bone to pick with us or the team.
I guess if we are to call Florida Panthers fraud then I guess we can call the Tamp Bay Lightning (who had a 65-17-? Season) fraud because they got swept in the first round in 2019. So do we still call the Lightning fraud even when they won Stanly Cup back to back? My point is, it unfair to call a team fraud after a Game 1 loss. Panther had an excellent regular season this year so I wouldn’t call them fraud.
Yes, they are.
One game. I expect Florida to bounce back and mightily.
The evidence was there last night that the leafs got dunked on by tampa. Absolute frauds in Toronto.. see how stupid that sounds after just 2 games? And these guys say that after 1 game
One game guys. Were the Lightning frauds after their horrendous Game 1?
people are asking that after one game???
I would be surprised to see the Panthers go deep. They are all fire power and little else.
Nope. Expectations have changed. Pressure is rising. They will figure it out.
The Panthers are a paper tiger
No defense and defense wins the cup
LOL give it a series, not a game. Look what the Oilers did in game 2, look what Tampa did in game 2…
Are the Leafs frauds now that they lost😄😄😄😄
You guys are frauds.
The panthers are still gonna win this series no question. They are too strong for Washington. I do have questions if they can win round 2. This is mostly an offensive based team with an ok back end. They can win this series and I expect they will win this series but if there 2nd round opponent can play strong defense then they maybe in trouble
a lot of conclusions being drawn from one game
Hey did you see the Panthers game last night? Oh my God they lost their first game by 2 goals in regulation. They should probably like trade their coach and trade all of the goalies and I don’t know why they; Shut the f*ck up. It’s the first game
Maybe a bit early for this question? Seems like a reasonable thing to see how game 2 plays out. If the Caps win again, then you can start asking that. If Florida blows them out, then maybe not the time.
Is it just me or is it that they have bad takes in the last little while… Leafs win one game and win the cup… best team in the league…. other teams loose one game and are frauds…
In the the Matthews, Marner, Nylander era the most fraudulent team were the leafs 🤷♂️ sorry but that is pretty much a fact.
I get it, you are leafs fans… but if you want to create a respectable sports network you should be a little bit more neutral with your takes.
It is starting to get annoying in my eyes 🤷♂️
This series is probably going to go like last year's final. Underdog wins Game 1, then immediately proceeds to get torched for the next 4 consecutive games. I'll throw Washington a bone, and say that they could lose in 6 due to their playoff experience.
If Florida are frauds for a single loss, then the Leafs are Bernie Madoff.
I don't think the President's Trophy is a predictor of not winning a Stanley Cup anymore than finishing 2nd or 4th or 8th is. The reality is, at least 8 teams are worthy of winning a Stanley Cup each playoffs, and perhaps more. Most games among those top teams are probably 50/50 in odds – maybe 60/40 at best. It is not unreasonable to think the best team won't win – I'd say it's enormously likely the best team doesn't win. You can only win so many coin flips in a row.
The moral of the story is that Hockey is not Chess – it's Poker. It may be even worse than Poker. A good team will increase their odds of winning, but usually only the very best teams have a 13-18% chance of winning the cup – so odds are, they will actually lose. You should count on them losing.
Let's look at the evidence from 1990 of where a team placed and what % that team won the cup to prove my point.
1st – 20%
2nd – 10%
3rd – 6.67%
4th – 20%
5th – 3.33%
6th – 10%
7th – 10%
8th – 6.67%
9th – 3.33%
10th – 3.33%
11th – 0%
12th – 3.33%
13th – 3.33%
14th – 0%
15th – 0%
16th – 0%
I'd say finishing from 14-16th is an excellent predictor those teams won't win a Stanley Cup. Finishing 9-13th gives you very low odds. That's the most we can draw from this as being in 1st through 8th gives you pretty good odds and I would expect these numbers to be a lot closer if we had a higher sample size in the modern era. This range is where we see a lot of the 50/50 coin flips I was talking about earlier.
One thing is clear, being 1st is not a curse – 20% is not bad. It's the best odds you have out of any placement, kind of debunking the "president's trophy curse" pretty well.
This is why I don’t listen to you anymore
as a Cats fan, Weegar is a fraud 😤😤
Leave it to Leafs fans to know a fraud team when they see one.
Eliminating the Florida Panthers as one of the favourites BECAUSE they are presidents trophy winners is idiotic. If you isolate any particular position in the standings you will find similar outcomes. How do all second,third, fourth and fifth place teams do? Using the same logic you better eliminate those as well if they aren’t individually high on the list. 🙄
Then i bet you’re gonna call the kraken an amazing team for winning a match
Almost as predicted, the Cats dominate the Caps in Game 2.
Also, Steve says they won 13 OT games. If they win 7 OT games (lose the other 6 they won) they are still a 51-win team with one more point than the Leafs. And by the way, take out all their extra-regulation wins (13 OT, 3 SO), they still have 42 regulation wins, and seeing as how they were the highest scoring team in the league, were pretty dominant in a lot of them.
Ratio
Are the caps now frauds for losing game 2 5-1 after winning game 1 4-2? No. This is called hockey…
Bad take I can't wait for the Tampa/Florida rematch
Are the leafs a fraud then?
Of course, the leafs have less OT wins. Haha
What a shock Toronto fans making drastic opinions over 1 game. Its a 7 game series, dont get high or low on your team after 1 game. How did Toronto do game 2? Panthers in game 2? Settle down!
Lol this clip aged fantastically
Wasn't the score 6-0 last night for Washington❓❓ Go panthers
No one said this untill the Panthers beat the leafs in overtime in a 5-1 comeback and the Leafs had no chance to catch them in the standings.
Easy answer: NO!
And saying that Cats dont look like a playoff team due to 13 3 on 3 OT wins, well guess who won OT in the playoffs tonight.
Aged like milk.
spoiler alert: No
Lmao… Poor Toronto 💩
Well well well, would you look at that? The panthers advance to the second round, and the leafs go golfing early once again after holding a 3-2 series lead and choking away games 6 and 7. What an absolute joke
Panthers went 2 for 2 in 5 on 5 OT wins and move on to the 2nd round. Maple Laughs out in the 1st yet again. Jokes on you Dangle. Also to the guy who doesn’t understand basic math. There are 16 teams that make the playoffs. Prior to going into the playoffs the top 5 teams had a 8%-12% chance of winning the cup based off of various betting sites. Based on the history of the presidents trophy you have a 23% chance of winning the cup after. So statistically you have better odds of winning after the presidents trophy. You could argue well 14 of the 15 teams last year that failed to win the presidents trophy didn’t go on to win the cup (93%) so you could argue there is a curse of NOT winning the presidents trophy. Instead of believing in unicorns and pots of gold at the end of the rainbow how about we try common sense.
Frauds moved on. The Leafs on the other hand…
This video has aged exceptionally great take fellas lol