Montre des récompenses de la LNH : Suzuki #1 pour Selke, Hutson #2 pour Norris et #4 pour le trophée Hart. Demidov #3 pour Calder.
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Laydownthelaw
@Canadiens de Montréal
Montre des récompenses de la LNH : Suzuki #1 pour Selke, Hutson #2 pour Norris et #4 pour le trophée Hart. Demidov #3 pour Calder.
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Laydownthelaw
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Paywall. Ban him
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Get this man a Selke
Hutson is great, no way he should be a head of either makar or werenski though.
Hutson is #4 for Hart trophy? That’s insane.
Im sorry does that say Hutson is 4th for Hart??
Those rankings are insane but I won’t complain. Suzuki for Selke, yeah, I think that’s reasonable. Hutson #2 for Norris is spicy, I think he’s definitely top 5 but it’s hard to say he’s better than Hughes, Werensky, Makar. #4 for Hart is kinda crazy too, although I can absolutely agree with him being our MVP ahead of Suzuki. Demidov #3 for Calder is totally fine.
Regardless, the mere fact that these are even conversations we’re having right now is insane. When’s the last time something like that happened to us? The fucking 1970’s???
Honestly Caulfield did a LOT of heavy lifting for the Habs. If we make it in the playoffs I’d like to see him with some Hart nominations as well
Shiiiit don’t post this on the hockey sub otherwise we’ll be persecuted worse than witches in the 1600s
I love Hutson but he isn’t even the MVP for the Habs, them having him 4th in the league is insane.
His own teams fans continue to underrated Hutson
I genuinely wonder who the people are that downvote anyone defending Hutson.
They can’t be fans of this team? Right?
Any Leafs news?
I hope Dobes gets some Calder love too.
Caufield # for Rocket Richard
I’d firmly put Suzuki in a whole tier above Hutson or anyone on the team *if* they are to have a candidate for Hart. His impact on the development of his teammates, along with MSL, is presumably significant. His base and advanced stats are incredible as a two-way forward who is among the Selke favourites. Everything goes through him, everything happens through him. My controversial take is that the team may not be in competition for the postseason if they did not have Suzuki.
A few caveats here because a little context is missing. These lists aren’t a prediction, this is just the modelled impact for each player. For the Hart specifically, it is the best (highest net rating according to their model) player for each team, ranked by the percentile for their position. This is why Makar isn’t on the Hart list, even though he is higher than Hutson on the Norris list. Dom provides context and makes arguments for several players in each list, except for Schaefer for Calder he isn’t saying that the top player on each of these is guaranteed to win (or even necessarily his pick for it). I see a lot of people in hockey subs not really understanding how models work or shitting on their results without seeing their context or Dom’s commentary on the results which I think is often quite thoughtful and acknowledges shortcomings or unexpected results.
A phrase I think worth keeping in mind is « All models are wrong, some models are useful ». Models are an attempt to take the data we have and the processes we think are contributing to an outcome and see if we can recreate the results we observe. These can be used to provide predictions for the future, but also to better understand the current situation and see what we might be overlooking from a more qualitative « eye test » perspective. Hope this is interesting to some people here – models are not and never will be right all the time, and that doesn’t mean they are bad or useless.
Caufield should get way more Hart love than Hutson, all due respect.