Yeah that’s rough. Throw it up there on the wall with Kadri, getting out from Marleau and not finding a way to sign Hyman. All tough pills to swallow.
theguyishere16
It aged horrifically, but it didn’t look that awful at the time, Marchment just unexpectedly exploded. It’s still not as bad as his Foligno trade. Or if you attribute trading the pick used on Konecny for the picks used on Dermott, Bracco and Dzierkals to him that might take the cake.
Sacred_soul
Maybe the Marleau trade was the worst one
Rufuesy
He had a lot of bad trades but I remember the marchment trade, I was super unhappy about it and everyone online seemed to be ok with it. I had him pegged as a third line winger on the leafs before the trade. If anyone watched him my in the playoffs for the marlies, he was crazy good and excatly what the leafs needed, and then to dump him for scraps.
That mid 2019 to early 2020 time had some of the leafs worst moves that lead to the teams continued failure.
n3rdsm4sh3r
Geno fucking Malgin.
Leafer1331
Kadri, Marchment, Verhaeghe, Sandin. All horrible trades.
Verhaeghe is the one that I will give hi at least a partial pass on, because not should he have known what this guy was capable of but the team scouts as well. So it’s 50/50 blame I guess. Still horrible.
Oh and trading picks to dump bad signings in Marleau and Mrazek.
Hopefully the next GM we get is good at trading. I’m not holding my breath.
Imaginary-Plate2987
Not sure why everyone is speculating about what other trades he should have included here. He’s the one telling you, in his own words, what his biggest regret is here. It’s not up for discussion.
Discussion should only be around Marchment and how awful that trade was. He was exactly the type of player we needed in the playoffs and we dealt him for a nothing player like Malgin.
MediocreTry8847
How is he still talking so highly on Malgin?
Takhar7
Not surprised he didn’t say the Kadri deal – if you read his book, you know that if he trusts his logic behind a particular decision, he’s okay with that decision, even if the outcome ends up being disastrous.
Kadri was a liability. They needed a blueline body. He was content with the logic behind the deal.
The Marchment was just a self-own though – completely unnecessary.
BUROCRAT77
Not the horseshit contracts?
zetterbeardz
I’m not a major leafs fan but I listened to this pod and Dubas was awesome.
I thought this part was really telling into what he had full control over and what he didn’t… obviously there were other bad moves but maybe he felt like he wasn’t the main decision maker on other deals in comparison to this one. Totally speculating though.
WokePredator
Haven’t watched this video, but I always heard they loved Marchment as a player, but eventually they needed a body and he couldn’t stay healthy enough. He also sorta learned that whether it’s Babcock or his buddy Keefe, coaches aren’t going to play some of these small useful players in serious minutes. I’d have preferred to go with some total unknown coach willing to fire Keefe and play Denis Malgin and Nicolas Petan, but he wasn’t, which was another problem.
Kevin4938
If that trade is his biggest regret, then it’s a great sign that maybe he *was* the problem. I can think of several changes that he made or that he didn’t make that were a lot worse. Sure, you could argue that he tried to make some changes (like trading Marner before the NTC kicked in) but was overruled, but the point is, they weren’t made.
CaptnClutch4
Dubas not owning the Jared McCann trade who he subsequently left exposed for Seattle to protect Kerfoot, shows a level of awareness that rivals Trump.
That trade, espescially by a guy whos suppose to be an analyst, was absurd.
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Yeah that was bad, but the Kadri deal. Yikes.
Yeah that’s rough. Throw it up there on the wall with Kadri, getting out from Marleau and not finding a way to sign Hyman. All tough pills to swallow.
It aged horrifically, but it didn’t look that awful at the time, Marchment just unexpectedly exploded. It’s still not as bad as his Foligno trade. Or if you attribute trading the pick used on Konecny for the picks used on Dermott, Bracco and Dzierkals to him that might take the cake.
Maybe the Marleau trade was the worst one
He had a lot of bad trades but I remember the marchment trade, I was super unhappy about it and everyone online seemed to be ok with it. I had him pegged as a third line winger on the leafs before the trade. If anyone watched him my in the playoffs for the marlies, he was crazy good and excatly what the leafs needed, and then to dump him for scraps.
That mid 2019 to early 2020 time had some of the leafs worst moves that lead to the teams continued failure.
Geno fucking Malgin.
Kadri, Marchment, Verhaeghe, Sandin. All horrible trades.
Verhaeghe is the one that I will give hi at least a partial pass on, because not should he have known what this guy was capable of but the team scouts as well. So it’s 50/50 blame I guess. Still horrible.
Oh and trading picks to dump bad signings in Marleau and Mrazek.
Hopefully the next GM we get is good at trading. I’m not holding my breath.
Not sure why everyone is speculating about what other trades he should have included here. He’s the one telling you, in his own words, what his biggest regret is here. It’s not up for discussion.
Discussion should only be around Marchment and how awful that trade was. He was exactly the type of player we needed in the playoffs and we dealt him for a nothing player like Malgin.
How is he still talking so highly on Malgin?
Not surprised he didn’t say the Kadri deal – if you read his book, you know that if he trusts his logic behind a particular decision, he’s okay with that decision, even if the outcome ends up being disastrous.
Kadri was a liability. They needed a blueline body. He was content with the logic behind the deal.
The Marchment was just a self-own though – completely unnecessary.
Not the horseshit contracts?
I’m not a major leafs fan but I listened to this pod and Dubas was awesome.
I thought this part was really telling into what he had full control over and what he didn’t… obviously there were other bad moves but maybe he felt like he wasn’t the main decision maker on other deals in comparison to this one. Totally speculating though.
Haven’t watched this video, but I always heard they loved Marchment as a player, but eventually they needed a body and he couldn’t stay healthy enough. He also sorta learned that whether it’s Babcock or his buddy Keefe, coaches aren’t going to play some of these small useful players in serious minutes. I’d have preferred to go with some total unknown coach willing to fire Keefe and play Denis Malgin and Nicolas Petan, but he wasn’t, which was another problem.
If that trade is his biggest regret, then it’s a great sign that maybe he *was* the problem. I can think of several changes that he made or that he didn’t make that were a lot worse. Sure, you could argue that he tried to make some changes (like trading Marner before the NTC kicked in) but was overruled, but the point is, they weren’t made.
Dubas not owning the Jared McCann trade who he subsequently left exposed for Seattle to protect Kerfoot, shows a level of awareness that rivals Trump.
That trade, espescially by a guy whos suppose to be an analyst, was absurd.