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Seems to me that what this team needs is to pick a direction they want to go and commit to it. Tank for at least two seasons so they can have better odds of picking up one or potentially two superstars and then build back up.
im not sure botterill is the guy i want running my team
It definitely looks like Hughes & Gorton knew what they doing when selecting Slafkovsky over Wright!!
Great analysis, thanks. May the draft odds be ever in our favor
They don't have a single player that has point-per-game potential. All their "top guys" are just barely passable, decent players.
I knew this would hurt. They need to tank and get a super star. No rebounding next year, they've tried that the last two years and they haven't improved.
10 years ago if you were to tell me ‘Vegas golden Knights and Utah Mammoth were going to meet in the 1st round of the 2026 NHL playoffs’ I would have said … “what???”
until the entire FO is redone, and maybe even the ownership, I think the Kraken will be trapped in the land of the mediocre. no stars, mid level picks, retread coaches and GMs with resumes filled with failure. I don't think that ownership/FO really understands how underachieving this team is, because they are continually hoping they are just one player away from being relevant. I'm hopeful we get lucky, because we don't seem to have a plan
Seattle's hockey teams haven't had great seasons but the fans are showing that this is a hockey market just look at what the Torrent fanbase did this year
I think the right word would actually be painfully mediocre, and keeping Botterill as GM and their press conference the other day between him and Leiweke made it sound like it was going to be more of the same and didn’t inspire much confidence in them.
Huge Kraken fan, I adore Seattle, made it my home and raised my family there
Mediocre doesn't cover the state of the franchise
Leiweke gave a press conference yesterday I invite anyone to read fan comments on the conference
Fans are not happy at all with this franchise
Our key complaint is how self congratulatory they remain, despite dwindling season ticket sales, a BRUTAL two hour queue to get home from the game via monorail, hugely expensive seats and crappy crappy food and drink at the venue
So even beyond the botched management from Ronnie the Whaler, the ineffective free agent acquisitions the fact players don't want to come to the franchise and dull, uninspired play on the ice, Leiweke still bragging how great a job he did for everyone
Systemic change is necessary but how can that happen when management keep telling themselves how awesome they are
It's not mediocrity it's ineptitude and fans are not happy
They have to retain Bobby McMann he was a revelation for them down the stretch.
My dream Seattle Kraken offseason:
Let walk: Schwartz ($5.5M), Oleksiak ($4.6M), Murray ($1M)
Resign: Tolvanen and McMann (preferably not 7-year extensions…)
Trades:
OUT:
– Lindgren for whatever we can get out of him.
– Evans for an early-ish to mid-round pick.
– Gaudreau for a mid-round pick
– Grubauer (with retention) for any young depth piece.
IN:
– A young TRUE star forward for high picks + prospects (O'Brien or Catton as key piece)
– A TRUE 1st / 2nd line left shot D-man to pair with Montour for a couple of higher picks and young depth pieces like Nyman, Sale or Morrison.
Call Ups:
– Ottavainen for 7th D
– Firkus for Depth offense
– Kokko for 2nd G
Free agent signings:
-Young / cheap depth D ($1M-$2M)
Opening Day Lineup:
(NEW) / Beniers / Eberle
McCann / Wright / McMann
Kakko / Stephenson / Tolvanen
Winterton / Meyers / Melanson
(Firkus / Depth Piece)
(NEW) / Montour
Dunn / Larsson
Fleury / Mahura
(Depth Piece / Ottavainen)
In my opinion, Seattle needs to clean house, commit to a rebuild, and start tanking for draft picks. They’ll be cup bound in 7-8 seasons.
Agreed that they really need a superstar, but those don’t hit the market often enough to make “cross your fingers and be ready to offer league max” a viable solution to build a Stanley Cup team.
yep .
I mean, if you compare them to all the other NHL expansion teams (bar the anomaly that is Vegas), they’ve pretty much been equal to or better than most of them after five years. Obviously different rules, but Seattle definitely didn’t benefit like Vegas did after GMs wisened up and the global pandemic hit. Since no other major league sports team has had to form and debut during a pandemic, who knows how it affected the initial development of this team…
They bungled Wright’s development hard after the season 2 over performance, just doubling and tripling down on middle six guys to try and get back in the playoffs instead of fostering the young talent. It feels like it could be half a decade before they get to the higher end of mid
They finished exactly where I feared. Not quite good enough to be in the playoffs, a bit too good to be a true bottom feeder and get great draft picks. They really do need to pick one, either go big on a trade/free agency deal (and I know, who could they even get) and pick up some firepower or do a couple years of burning it down for draft picks. A rag tag bunch of middle six guys ain't cutting it.
And to the topic of the locker room, in the media availability with Leiweke and Botterill they described it as quite. That comment has made seeing Yanni Gourde back in playoff with Tampa even more painful. He seems to be the only guy in the history of the team to really pop off when things started going sideways.
As a Seattle fan I can say that the majority of this fan base is more optimistic than they should be. In general, the overall hockey knowledge in the area is low, but of course they believe otherwise. It's one of those cases where you don't understand what you don't know, it just takes time. That being said there are plenty of enthusiastic fans and the Kraken are doing well here. I get the feeling that most fans would be happy for us to just make the playoffs. I would be happy with that too except my favorite NHL team is the Wild and we are sick of just making the playoffs. Since repeated first round exits is my experience I don't really want to repeat that in Seattle. The Kraken are years away from being any kind of contender and I just worry that it is impossible to attract any real talent through a trade because they usually want to go to a team that is more developed than the Kraken are. I am also worried that the desire to make the playoffs will cause the front office to sign players to contracts that are not friendly for the team, like the Stephenson contract. I think that all of the RFA's need to go except for Tolvy, and McMann if we can somehow convince him to stay, which I will be surprised if he does. Gru needs to go if we can get a taker. This team needs to move on from our older players who are taking up ice time for the younger guys to developed and get some future difference makers through the draft. The other option is to continue to sign middle 6 guys and be a bubble/ first round playoff loser which I am not excited about.
This is a bottom five team and it’s in the best interest of them to tank for this upcoming season. They are bad and boring and need an entire top line. Can’t fix that in one offseason.
My thoughts are this: the McCann comment is a hint. I’m seeing way too many signs of “they don’t hate losing” (aka there is no competitive fire in this locker room). It feels like a passive group. The Kraken’s downfall since the start has been- they JUST can’t be consistent. They KEEP just falling apart in lapses- lack of concentration, let up for a gap every match. That’s what having extreme competitors fixes.
My take? Clean house. It really has to be done. This core has been together 5 yrs and you JUST dont’ see them fighting for each other or any fire (aka “it’s easy to play the Kraken” and “the Kraken are soft” murmurs we here now and then around the league on this team). It’s a team that goes thru the motions and gets lucky now and then.
Time to clean house and find the personalities before the skill and build the correct culture (just like the Seahawks did- they find mentality/character first, not skills).
Great video Kraken have alot of things to fix thats for sure!!
Just put wright on 2nd line and leave him there all season, THEN you will know his true worth.
Trade for Leon Dreiseidel!!
Any chance they call up a player from the KC Mavericks??
Send Jason Robertson an offer sheet 🤞
Eberle had a remarkable season really considering he came off that pelvic injury last yr that no other NHL player has ever had and he’s 35. His 2nd best in goals since ‘13-14 with Oilers.
Lane Lambert ain't gonna get it done even if their goal is just to barely make the playoffs every year.
firmly believe they need to scale back and really focus on player development for the future. if they keep doing what they’ve been doing, the future feels bleak.